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Old 10-02-2024, 09:49 AM   #9592
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Originally Posted by gvitaly View Post
I'm comparing them this way because it's faster, because the other side is all too quick to excuse those organizations.

If you want feel free to compare Israel no the US, Canada, or NATO. Should we examine the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Should we look into facilities like Guantanamo Bay?

What realistically should Israel do differently, without rewarding the terrorists they're fighting for their tactics? Moreover note that the West's tactics when fighting terrorists are largely ineffective.

What “other side” is excusing Hamas actions. Quit arguing strawmen.

Yes we should examine the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq was a completely unnessary war with no justification and led to millions dead and displaced and the strengthening of terrorist organizations. Yes we should look at Afganistan and the Obama drone campaign and examine the acceptable numbers of civilian casualties to accomplish these objectives and yes we should condemn torture at Guantanamo Bay. Are you suggesting the torture at Guantanamo was justified?

What realistically? Treat Gaza like they do Iran. Limited assassinations with very careful calculus on the civilian damage. Reduce the acceptable number of civilian casualties to kill a Hamas member, continue there exceptional intelligence work and defensive focus to ensure casualties are limited. Stop expanding into the West Bank.
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