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Major Major · 10-02-2024, 09:37 AM

I mean, all you have to do is look at the comps in order to understand the market. There are relevant comps that happened at the same time... It doesn't really get more obvious.

Guentzel is the better and more valuable player than Lindholm. Lindholm got the better return.

Ullmark is better and more valuable than Markstrom although I would say that is pretty marginal when you consider the contracts and retention. Markstrom got the better return (not marginal).

Now look at the Toffoli deal for more glaringly obvious signs of a "won trade".
Flames got a better, younger and cheaper player and a pick. A few months later, NJ traded him for a lesser return. Doesn't get much more obvious than that...

Here are the players that returned a 1st round draft pick of any kind approaching the 24 trade deadline:

-Lindholm
-Hanifin
-Henrique (lol)
-Monahan
-Walker (with cap dump)
-Hertl (term + retention)

There is no real comp for Hanifin there, but it's hard to argue any of these extracted better value than him when you look at the deal as a whole. There are some mid tier assets there and I understand people looking at Walker and saying "if he's worth a first, Hanifin should be worth the moon." It was a solid deal but perhaps not as obvious a winner as Toffoli, Markstrom and Lindholm.

10-02-2024, 09:37 AM	#51
Major Major First Line Centre Join Date: Sep 2011 Exp:	I mean, all you have to do is look at the comps in order to understand the market. There are relevant comps that happened at the same time... It doesn't really get more obvious. Guentzel is the better and more valuable player than Lindholm. Lindholm got the better return. Ullmark is better and more valuable than Markstrom although I would say that is pretty marginal when you consider the contracts and retention. Markstrom got the better return (not marginal). Now look at the Toffoli deal for more glaringly obvious signs of a "won trade". Flames got a better, younger and cheaper player and a pick. A few months later, NJ traded him for a lesser return. Doesn't get much more obvious than that... Here are the players that returned a 1st round draft pick of any kind approaching the 24 trade deadline: -Lindholm -Hanifin -Henrique (lol) -Monahan -Walker (with cap dump) -Hertl (term + retention) There is no real comp for Hanifin there, but it's hard to argue any of these extracted better value than him when you look at the deal as a whole. There are some mid tier assets there and I understand people looking at Walker and saying "if he's worth a first, Hanifin should be worth the moon." It was a solid deal but perhaps not as obvious a winner as Toffoli, Markstrom and Lindholm.