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Old 10-01-2024, 12:44 AM   #21670
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Iran likely isn't crazy enough to assassinate Trump, but they are quite openly against his re-election.

Not sure how many remember it, but for a moment during his presidency, Trump was pretty openly and actively trying to start a war against Iran, he was only really stopped by voices of reason in the government and in Pentagon.

Much of the reason was (probably that Putin told him to do it, but also) because Obama had successfully made a deal with Iran, and Trump just wanted to destroy anything with Obamas name on it.

...People really SHOULD be talking more about that, it's probably one of the worst things Trump did during his presidency, and it's something which has massive, far-reaching consequences that are very much still seen today.

People should remember it, because the US ripping up an agreement they themselves had pushed hard for did massive damage to US reputation as a reliable negotiating partner, an issue which is still felt today in international politics (for good reason, after all Trunp could get re-elected and would probably do more of the same.) It also helped push Iran away from (relatively) moderate politics and straight into the arms of Russia who was conveniently right there to help protect Iran from that crazy bully overseas.

It's also.worth remembering that that deal, often credited to Obama, was also signed by Russia, China, Germany, UK and France. It was a really big international agreement that was supposed to lift the international sanctions around Iran and help them "join the international community".

Trump pulled out of that deal unilaterally and pushed for even more sanctions, especially around oil. The European powers desperately tried to salvage the deal by suggesting they would create measures to circumvent the sanctions, but ultimately the deal died.

The final nail on the coffin was the US assassinating a top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani (with four others dying as "collateral damage") with a drone strike. What made the strike even worse was the fact that Soleimani was at that moment coming back from a diplomatic effort to help ease tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia, literally carrying a letter from Saudi Arabia on him. While this was likely completely accidental, you can just imagine what this looked like from the Iranian perspective: the US essentially assassinated a diplomatic envoy during negotiations between them and a US ally. You can imagine how batcrap insane this made US look in many Middle-Eastern eyes.

Trump still has an active arrest warrant in Iran for this attack, and it's the official reason why Iran has actively been trying to sabotage the Trump campaign with hacking efforts.

The destruction of this deal had a huge impact in Iranian internal politics. Then Iranian resident Hassan Rouhani had won the presidency in a huge landslide (73% of the vote) on a platform of negotiating with the West to lift the sanctions, and improving the human rights situation inside Iran. After that deal failed, he and many other potential moderates were banned from even running in the next election by Irans guardian council.

In other words, Iran isn't even giving moderate diplomacy a chance anymore, because of what Trump did. Biden tried to talk Iran back into the deal, but it was predictably hopeless.

Last edited by Itse; 10-01-2024 at 01:21 AM.
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