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Originally Posted by GGG
Uhmmm what do you call it when the two military’s of the elected governments lob rockets back and forth at each other?
Israel after this attack said they moved to a new phase of the war with Lebanon which suggests prior to the attacks they were at the old phase in the war.
Associated press call it
https://apnews.com/hub/israel-hamas-war
How about Hezbolah
Well after Israel assassinated the
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/16/w...on-israel.html
So I don’t know the argument for them not being at war. Perhaps not an all out war.
Does your comment mean that you recognize a war exception for terrorism? |
So here's where I don't quite know, which is why I asked those questions. To address your bold statement, that's not true.
Hezbollah is not the Lebanon government military.
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For years, Hezbollah has played an official political role, with ministers in government and lawmakers in parliament. It currently holds the ministry of public works and the ministry of labour, and has often formed coalitions with other political parties, including Christian ones, under power-sharing agreements.
Fractured, sectarian politics means the government in Lebanon has remained weak, politically divided and plagued by corruption. Currently, there is no president due to infighting. The upshot is that even Hebzollah’s domestic adversaries are unable to reel in the group. Lebanon’s caretaker prime minister, Najib Mikati, for example, describes himself as “liberal” and is not part of Hezbollah, but he has little control over what it does.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-israel-pagers
So to me, Israel is at war with
Hezbollah, but does that extend to Lebanon? It's not like Gaza and Hamas, even if you want to stretch that responsibility to the people. I think it's more complex. Could Lebanon negotiate peace with Israel? Doubtful, without control of
Hezbolla. This is a good article for background:
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/political-instability-lebanon
Consider the killings of Canadians by what is suspected to be the Indian government. Clearly India is not at war with Canada, but they are in conflict with the Sikh separatist movement and have brought that battle to our country. Canada would not help India. Obviously much smaller scale, but you see it isn't the same as countries going to war.
As to the terrorism/war exception, well ya, there will be more leeway in a more traditional war between nations.
My overall objection though, is this is just more of the same cycle, and does nothing to help safety or security of anyone, and will result in more needless deaths. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think history is on my side on my worries.