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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
There's a very easy way to know the battery life. You can just put an odb2 dongle in and it'll tell you the battery state of health.. Can't do that with an engine.
Having said that, you'd have to go out of your way to ruin the battery, it wouldn't be from using the car too hard. It would likely be from always having the battery above 90% state of charge which would take a lot of effort
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WFH or retired and leaving the vehicle always charging could do this easily. There's also a large group of us of driving age that were taught to always top up the tank once we get close to 50% as it would benefit the vehicle. It's been in laptops for at least a decade. Apple just started rolling out the less than 100% charging in phones and watches a few months ago. Android probably a few years. I don't know where Tesla as a tech company sits for something like this.
I would assume there's software to prevent the regular charging of over 90%, but who knows how long it has been since it was properly implemented (and I'd assume it's been around for at least a few years in the Tesla software). I'm just saying maybe it's not as difficult to override as believed, which is why the criticisms are so common. But I agree that I haven't really seen true data that completely matches this.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news...rm%20Recurrent.
This says a firm has monitored BEV and many are down to 64% after 3 years.
Now before someone spins this to a pure aha moment, there's a reason why many ICE vehicles were amortized down to similar levels by year 3 prior to the pandemic. Degradation is just normal and I don't believe the degradation of these batteries are linear after the first 3 years. Overhauling and replacing a battery pack by year 8-12 seems normal. Even an ICE has likely accumulated some type of major restoration/repair/major recall work by year 8-12.
IMO there's nothing wrong with a BEV down to 64% after 3 years. I'd still buy one if the market price appropriated reflected this reality and/or more. But this criticism I'm saying is severely overstated and also overly disregarded. It's like people think that two sides of an extreme opinion average out to a normal opinion. No. It's just two horribly incorrect and alternate opinions mashed together.
An opinion of whether Vancouver or Toronto is better doesn't average out to Milwaukee (around half the driving distance between the two cities). That's the annoyance I have with the BEV/PHEV/ICE debate. It's gotten about as ridiculous and bad as politics and religion in many occasions.