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Old 09-02-2024, 11:37 AM   #94
Enoch Root
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Originally Posted by GGG View Post
So scenario 1

Player gets an 8yr/ 80 million dollar cap hit 10 million cap hit

Scenario 2

Player gets an 8 yr / 94.3 million contract with a 10 million bonus in each of the first two years which is deferred and paid out in year nine at 7.5% interest. 17.8 million for the first bonus and 16.5 million for the second bonus.

Both have cap hits of 10 million per season. Both have the same NPV for the player using a 7.5% discount rate.

If a player views the risk of the blue jacks going bankrupt to be low enough and the 7.5% guaranteed return to be high enough he is better off with the second. But if someone did this over the last 8 years and instead just invested those first two bonuses in the S+P they would have been way worse off.

So from a cap hit perspective it comes down to do you believe the discount rate of 7.5% is too high? If so then you would consider it cap manipulation. But if you go back 2 years ago when Libor was almost 0 and the rate would be 1.5% then it would be a cap penalizing change. So if all parties are education then there verbiage in the CBA can’t really be abused.
In Scenario 2, the player got more money. Same cap hit. How do people keep missing the point here?

Contracts of 8 years or less do not discount the cash flows, for cap calculation purposes. If you go longer, you can. It is cap circumvention.

I am not discussing discount rates here, I am saying that, by adding a day to the contract, you can reduce the cap hit. It's a bad move that is now going to get exploited until it's fixed (or the cap will be dead)
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