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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I don't really think any points anyone likes about Trump are going to be debated. There's nothing to debate at this stage. This isn't John McCain or even GW Bush. It’s Trump. Until he's gone, and unless he's somehow replaced by someone equally odious (hard to imagine who that could realistically be) there isn't anything to talk about.
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Theoretically people could talk about policy, pros and cons and what's important.
It's just that the conservatives especially but Americans more generally seem to have kind if abandoned any discussion of policy. Discussing the strengths and weaknessess of a plan is showing weakness or being boring.
Trump of course is the absolute worst here. His idea od policy talk is shouting random slogans like "I'm gonna build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" or "Inflation is so high but I'm going to fix it".
Does the wall work, has it been cost effective..? Nobody knows and nobody cares. Does his plan to fix inflation have any basis in reality? Again nobody knows and nobody cares.
There's only so much meaningful conversation to be had over how someone appears in an interview, or what age they are, or is someone weird or not. The most memorable part of the DNC was a well delivered dick joke.
The election discussion is basically all just picking apart smaller and smaller details of rhetorics, behavior and looks and talking vaguely about what kinds of people there are on either side.
I also think people are just increasing misinformed about what each party stands for at this point in time... or if they're not misinformed, then I'm very wrong.
It's not just that the Republicans have been taken over by extremists in basivally every topic from economic policy to social policy. Democrats have also quite noticeable moved to "the left". In fact both parties are showing clear signs of moving least away from the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama era of complete neo-liberalism dominance.
It used to really be the case that there was basically no difference in economic policy between the two parties, but increasingly there are... it's just really hard to keep track of or talk about in a meaningful way, because no one is interested in having a discussion where the point would be to understand where we are now. Any discussion is just immediately going to be about good people and bad people and who should and shouldn't be in power.
(For the record, this isn't exactly new, and this stuff comes and goes. I think there's a lot exhaustion in the air, I think people are getting really tired of anger politics and want some more peace and hope in their TV's.
I also think if Harris wins, Trump is likely gone from the party leadership, as he's just too old to be relevant in four years, and that another election loss would stir an internal reckoning within the Republicans, and they would likely move towards the center at that point, out of sheer electoral pressure.)