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Originally Posted by Sliver
We didn't. Most don't. Just wrapping up raising two kids and we were militant about no screaming and screeching. 90% of the people we raised kids along side were like us. Then the moronic trashy ones just let their kids scream. It just takes a couple in a large group to make it look like they're all screaming, but it's usually just one or two. You can typically pick them out before they even start screaming: hair not brushed, sleepies in eyes, toothpaste stains on shirts, crust in the corner of mouths, dirty fingernails, etc.
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Originally Posted by Brendone
I would say bad behaviour is unacceptable regardless of your potential benefits to society. You don’t get a pass because you may contribute at some point. If that were the case, service dogs that bark at night get a pass too.
Kids, dogs, adults, etc that behave like dickheads are all equal dickheads.
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I could rant endlessly on this, but a good chunk of these "bad behaved kids" simply have different neurochemistry, and it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for them to exist comfortably within our neurotypical societal expectations (many many many of which are ####ing stupid and none of us like, anyways). And it can be essentially impossible to teach/discipline/etc them in a way that makes any sense to our neurotypical brains. Science/medicine is barely beginning to understand this; diagnosis is difficult and subjective, and it isn't something that can be 'fixed' any more than the colour of one's skin or sexual orientation.
Peace and quiet is not an unreasonable expectation. Good chance those kiddos live in a state of constant dysregulation, despite their parent's best efforts (that may well have evaporated at some point out of lack of understanding and the futility of it all, because holy #### it can be incredibly ####ing hard). So as much as they may disrupt dozens of moments of your day, imagine what they might be feeling most of the time.
None of us can really imagine what it's like to live in a world that is constantly hostile to you (but doesn't seem to bother most others). 3 years ago I probably would have been a judgmental prick about loud kids and 'bad parents'. Not anymore.