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AvengeR · 01-14-2005, 01:20 PM

Unions are totally useless. I have had talks with a guy who works with big and small companies to help them be more efficient and less wasteful. He has been hired by companies like Chrysler, Ford, IBM. He said that of every single company he has dealt with, 100% of the time when a union is put into place, the productivity drops enormously. He noticed emplyees being lazy and doing just the minimal amount.

At Chrysler, they want to implement new robots so that they can do a model changeover in a couple of minutes, like they do at Toyota and Honda. Currently, it takes them 6-8 hours to change to a new model. But the union said that they could not do that cause it would cause loss of some jobs. They also wanted to implement the same procedure as the Japanese automakers, by giving workers on the assembly line the ability to stop the assembly line if they see any problems. The unsion squashed that idea too. So the union would rather the worker let a problem go by and have it be discovered near the end of the assembly process so they have to waste time going all the way back to find out where the problem orginated. What kind of union would rather save a few jobs than to see the company be more productive and improve its quality, and therefore make more profits?

Why is it that of the big 3 domestic automakers, the cars that are built in Canada/US have the most defect rates. Whereas, the ones built in Mexico (no unions), have the best quality? It has nothing to do with them having better equipment or being Mexican, it's because there is no union and they have a great working environment.

The guy I talked to said he noticed a big difference when observing Toyota workers and those from the Big 3. The Toyota workers too care and pride in what they did. The unionized workers couldn't give a damn, they jsut did their task and if they can clearly see a defect or problem, they ignore it and pass it on to the next person.

Unions should only have the ability to negotiate wages and working conditions and hours. They should not be able to decide who gets fired, what new equipment or manufacturing process gets implemented and what plant gets closed or not.

01-14-2005, 01:20 PM	#14
AvengeR Scoring Winger Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Calgary Exp:	Unions are totally useless. I have had talks with a guy who works with big and small companies to help them be more efficient and less wasteful. He has been hired by companies like Chrysler, Ford, IBM. He said that of every single company he has dealt with, 100% of the time when a union is put into place, the productivity drops enormously. He noticed emplyees being lazy and doing just the minimal amount. At Chrysler, they want to implement new robots so that they can do a model changeover in a couple of minutes, like they do at Toyota and Honda. Currently, it takes them 6-8 hours to change to a new model. But the union said that they could not do that cause it would cause loss of some jobs. They also wanted to implement the same procedure as the Japanese automakers, by giving workers on the assembly line the ability to stop the assembly line if they see any problems. The unsion squashed that idea too. So the union would rather the worker let a problem go by and have it be discovered near the end of the assembly process so they have to waste time going all the way back to find out where the problem orginated. What kind of union would rather save a few jobs than to see the company be more productive and improve its quality, and therefore make more profits? Why is it that of the big 3 domestic automakers, the cars that are built in Canada/US have the most defect rates. Whereas, the ones built in Mexico (no unions), have the best quality? It has nothing to do with them having better equipment or being Mexican, it's because there is no union and they have a great working environment. The guy I talked to said he noticed a big difference when observing Toyota workers and those from the Big 3. The Toyota workers too care and pride in what they did. The unionized workers couldn't give a damn, they jsut did their task and if they can clearly see a defect or problem, they ignore it and pass it on to the next person. Unions should only have the ability to negotiate wages and working conditions and hours. They should not be able to decide who gets fired, what new equipment or manufacturing process gets implemented and what plant gets closed or not.