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Originally Posted by curves2000

I really don't have a side in this, I am on the side of logic, the economy, peoples pocket book and more. Trust me when I say that. I have no problem stating positions and taking a side on one thing or another but in this, this shouldn't be happening like the other instances I made.

Well that settles it I guess.

If you are an employee of CP or CN and are currently on the picket lines, I can see how this is deeply personal to you. If you are not and this is still deeply personal to you that's fine as well.

I don’t work for either or those companies but whether most working people realize it or not, the actions of the companies and the government affects them.

There are political and economic realities that are going to take shape for the company, the union and the government. At this stage everybody thinks they can fight the good fight until the bitter end, that just doesn't happen in real life. Everybody breaks, it's human nature.

Everybody breaks you say? Isn’t that an argument for not intervening?

The companies think they can continue this using spartan staff, accountants and managers who aren't unionized to become railroaders all of a sudden. Sure it will work in a few cases and instances for a little while.

I don’t think the companies believe that for a second. Do you have evidence to support your theory?

Eventually you need your workers back. Customers are going to be absolutely crushed by this and are going to be pissed off.

Absolutely crushed? How have they not already gone out of business if that’s the case? Is there any point where you would put reasonable needs of the workers ahead of the customers?

When the final details of the deal are released and we see what a gong show this was for what little this ended up costing the company, it will anger people.

So you’re saying they should support the workers?

The federal government can try and pretend all is well and they won't take a stand but we already know where this is going if we are being honest about it.

What planet are you living on? They’ve already taken a stance.

Binding arbitration and back to work legislation. If that doesn't bring a close, it will be an agreed contract with both sides losing a lot of what they were promised.

If that doesn’t bring a close? What they were promised? Both sides losing?

It’s becoming abundantly clear that you have no idea how this process works. Arbitrators aren’t going to impose massive concessions to both parties and neither side gets promised anything.

Union: The union is looking after it's members and rightfully so, are they being 100% honest with where this is going to go?

Um…they said they were going on strike and they went on strike. What exactly are you unclear on as far as their intentions are concerned?

Do they have an actual plan for union pressure within the Teamsters union from other industries represented by them that have been and are going to be affected? What is the appetite from union members across Canada and the US to have thousands of dollars in losses as a result of this action? People will fight until death for things that are their fight, but if its not, do you really care to the same degree? What dollar value in losses are you willing to accept in this? I am not talking about an overtime shift to show support, I am talking about real dollars.

All this remains to seen I suppose. An equally if not more important question would be how far are the companies willing to take this?

Let me guess where this ends up, with everybody a winner? The company, the union, the workers, the federal government who stuck up for Canadians, the workers and businesses? It's like the Oprah show, everybody will win something with the great railstrike of 2024.

Well the companies are highly profitable, and they’ll still be highly profitable so I guess that’s a win for them.

What the Union gets remains to be seen but if they improve the offer from where it currently stand I’d say that’s a win.

The government? Why is the government supposed to win anything here?

I am out, peace

I’ll agree that you’re out I suppose.