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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
Curvy,
Nah, you’re just trying to distract from someone calling out your BS. “I’m not gonna respond to direct requests, look over there Iggy likes Unions so we should dismiss what he’s saying based on that.” Classic. Weak, but classic.
Really? Based on what? The things you’ve heard in the news?
You kinda do. If you’d bother to ask anyone on a picket line what is going on you’d know not everything is being reported and even a lot of what is being reported isn’t always being very clearly presented.
Couldn’t help but chuckle at someone telling me to trust both a bunch of politicians and a company that has publicly stated that the Union is trying to hold the country hostage when they are the ones who locked them out in the first place.
You’d be surprised how fast a work stoppage entices both parties to get a deal done.
No. Good thing I’m typing this out otherwise it would be difficult to talk with all these words you’re trying to put in my mouth.
I disagree.
Perhaps you should have your ears checked by a professional.
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According to you it’s an embarrassment yet you haven’t really established how it differs from other serious rail strikes in other countries.
I don’t really see a tech guy as sexier than a conductor or vice versa but who you choose to have a thing for is up to you.
On a temporary incidental basis? It would probably depend on the circumstances but I’m inclined to say that I wouldn’t be universally opposed to it.
It’s cute how you keep trying to frame your questions as these being all or nothing matters, there’s nuance to these scenarios. If I agree that their position is reasonable and the impact is tolerable overall, I would.
You’re asking me to read peoples minds at this point but I’m sure that some would and that some might not support them.
There’s that word again, chaos. You throw it around too liberally for it to be taken seriously.
As long as we keep the outside based in reality, ok.
Please tell me you’re not going to try and say this is going to seriously impact the US election.
Oh my goodness you actually did. And then you actually used it as an implied argument for why we should accept OUR government’s actions in OUR country when the US tells them what to do.
Give me break, this is too much.
We can’t? A work stoppage is literally happening so thus far it appears as though we can have this happening.
Remember what I said earlier about keeping the outside of the box based in reality? Ending your post as it began by repeating that you don’t have a side when you clearly do, was a nice touch.  |
I really don't have a side in this, I am on the side of logic, the economy, peoples pocket book and more. Trust me when I say that. I have no problem stating positions and taking a side on one thing or another but in this, this shouldn't be happening like the other instances I made.
If you are an employee of CP or CN and are currently on the picket lines, I can see how this is deeply personal to you. If you are not and this is still deeply personal to you that's fine as well.
There are political and economic realities that are going to take shape for the company, the union and the government. At this stage everybody thinks they can fight the good fight until the bitter end, that just doesn't happen in real life. Everybody breaks, it's human nature.
The companies think they can continue this using spartan staff, accountants and managers who aren't unionized to become railroaders all of a sudden. Sure it will work in a few cases and instances for a little while. Eventually you need your workers back. Customers are going to be absolutely crushed by this and are going to be pissed off. When the final details of the deal are released and we see what a gong show this was for what little this ended up costing the company, it will anger people.
The federal government can try and pretend all is well and they won't take a stand but we already know where this is going if we are being honest about it. Binding arbitration and back to work legislation. If that doesn't bring a close, it will be an agreed contract with both sides losing a lot of what they were promised.
Union: The union is looking after it's members and rightfully so, are they being 100% honest with where this is going to go? Do they have an actual plan for union pressure within the Teamsters union from other industries represented by them that have been and are going to be affected? What is the appetite from union members across Canada and the US to have thousands of dollars in losses as a result of this action? People will fight until death for things that are their fight, but if its not, do you really care to the same degree? What dollar value in losses are you willing to accept in this? I am not talking about an overtime shift to show support, I am talking about real dollars.
Let me guess where this ends up, with everybody a winner? The company, the union, the workers, the federal government who stuck up for Canadians, the workers and businesses? It's like the Oprah show, everybody will win something with the great railstrike of 2024.
I am out, peace