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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
It’s bizarre. The topic of rape and sexual assault has been referred to as/talked about in terms of:
- the woke agenda
- “so called” rape
- the other team is worse
- it was normal back then!
- she was obviously obsessed with him
- you must be an unhappy person to even bring that up
- the Mongols raped, you gonna litigate them too? (my favourite)
That’s the kind of attitude that these same people think all Republicans have.
People need to grow up and realise we can have normal adult conversations in this thread without being worried around how it’s going to impact an election. Stop refusing to even discuss, let alone criticize, very real and totally fair issues to discuss surrounding Democrats. It’s extremely dorky.
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Adult conversations and criticisms of Democrats are completely fine.
Where things go off the rails is when factually inaccurate claims are made to mislead people about the situation we're talking about.
Saying that Bill is a "known rapist" is factually inaccurate.
A much more reasonable take would have been, "due to the sheer number of allegations, it would have been best if the Democrats erred on the side of caution and didn't invite Bill to speak".
When someone watches the DNC and their
only takeaway is "EWW! BILL SPOKE! RAPIST RAPIST"... the person does come across as having an anti-Democrat agenda.
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Originally Posted by rubecube
People could have just said "yeah, not a great look," and moved on.
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The same applies to you.
No, not really. When there are important differences between the situations, it's lazy and quite frankly dishonest to ignore those differences. Bill is not running for president, and he's not been adjudicated in court guilty of anything.
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Originally Posted by rubecube
The justifications for the cult behaviour are almost identical, too.
MAGA: "If Kamala wins, it's the end of America as we know it. The communists will have won."
Blue MAGA: "If Trump wins, it's the end of America as we know it. The fascists will have won!"
Obviously MAGA is dumber, because Kamala is very firmly a neoliberal, but the cognitive dissonance from Blue MAGA is pretty funny.
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The bolded is simply a true statement. For you to try to classify those who say it as "Blue MAGA" (or comparable in any way to MAGA), is extraordinarily dishonest.