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Old 08-20-2024, 01:12 PM   #8510
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Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache View Post
Then they did.

Difference is the world was at threat. Let's be honest, as bad as Oct 7th was and it was horrific, hamas poses 0 threat to take over israel. They do pose a security threat but Israel will never be destroyed because we know America or Israel will nuke any country who is even close to succeeding in that.

The two situations aren't even close to comparable to even pretend they are is just BS.

It's 100% a genocide and will go down in the history books as one (unless the same people who tried to edit the Wikipedia pages about the history of the region get a hold of it.)

You and Bagor can keep yelling genocide until your lips turn blue, but similar to the other previous wars in Gaza, it will be remembered just as such - another war initiated by terrorists, and when Israel responds with decisive force, the world falls for their pity party.

It’s actually quite silly how often this happens in the history of this region. In 1948, after Israel was declared a state, it gets attacked by multiple Arab countries. The resulting war leads to what Palestinians decry as the “nakba” now, as some great tragedy. Well maybe they shouldn’t have started a war to begin with.

But no, it continues again. 1967 six-day war initiated by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon. Israel defeats them all and occupies Golan Heights, Sinai Peninsula (subsequently returned to Egypt with peace treaty). To this day, Syria and others are still up in arms about the Golan Heights being occupied by Israel. And again, play stupid games and win stupid prizes. That included loss of territory. Maybe they shouldn’t have attacked. Happens again a short seven years later during the Yom Kippur. Continual acts of aggressions and then crying poor after the fact.

Luckily, Jordan and Egypt smarted up and recognized Israel’s right to exist, and it’s proven that Israel can easily co-exist with Arab neighbors. Likely would have been peace with Lebanon as well if that small country was not overrun as essentially an Iranian proxy now, debilitating that entire country and putting in shambles politically and economically.

Sorry to say, but after so much violence and time that has passed where peace could have been achieved, the vast majority of the problems in the region for Palestinians is self inflicted. It will be a never ending argument going back in time to see whose land this rightfully belongs to. It’s been debated a million times and at this point is highly irrelevant. Israel is the dominant power and is here to stay. The Palestinian people continue to be used as pawns by their various “leaders” who are in it for themselves. They need to realize Israel is not going anywhere, and has no incentive to make grand concessions, and the appetite is gradually decreasing with their population as time goes on. Sometimes, accepting an L is the best path forward, and the Palestinians just cannot accept it. Gaza could have been a small Monaco by now, but instead the billions and billions sent there have been diverted to creating an underground terrorist city, and still the world sucks up their propaganda and self-inflicted suffering.

Not to say Israel is innocent (not by a long shot) but it’s insane how much Israel gets blamed, but there is absolutely no self awareness by Palestinians or others supporting their cause, as to what they could have or should be doing differently.


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