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Originally Posted by Sultan
I know a lot of this thread is just attacking others, but I would like to ask a question in earnest.
I didn't really understand a lot of this, and I could never find out why Hitler or people hated Jewish people other than money jokes. Love Adam Sandler, so I looked a while ago and found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F...=HistoryonMaps
Can either side tell me if this is a decent enough overview without being too biased one way or another? |
In my opinion, it is a decently objective overview of the situation. I like that it delves way back in the history because a lot of people think it started with the creation of the modern Israeli state, which it didn't. The creation of the modern Israeli state was merely a side effect of generational trauma Jews faced for centuries.
Obviously a short video like this can't get into all the details, but there is so much more to the story. It briefly mentions the Arab and Muslim colonialism in the region that began in the 7th century, but it doesn't mention that massacres of Jews were common in the region while it was under Muslim rule, whether it was by Arabs, Malmuks, Seljuk Turk, or Ottoman Turks long before the modern state of Israel was established. The Hebron massacre in 1517, the destruction of the Jewish community of Safed in 1660, or the Safed massacre in 1838 for example, had nothing to do with Israel or Zionism. They had nothing to do with 1948 or 1967 borders, so anyone thinking that is the root cause of the problems, is fooling themselves. Nor did similar events in places like Tunis and Iraq long before Israel was on the modern map. The religious angle shouldn't be overlooked. To Islamists, the existence of Jews undermines their faith.
The video also mentioned Jewish settlement from the 1880s to the 1940s, but it doesn't mention that Arabs were also sending settlers to the region at the same time. Both sides were doing the same thing.
It also mentioned diaspora Jews settling in Israel in large numbers between 1880 and the 1940s, but it doesn't talk about why that happened. They were essentially being pushed out of areas like Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, and so on. They had to land somewhere, and of course after the Holocaust, Europe didn't seem like a great option either. Their cultural ancestral homeland seemed like the natural place to revive a Jewish state.