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Old 08-13-2024, 08:52 PM   #19045
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I think it’s great posters combat the outright lies from the Trump campaign and his supporters. You may never change the mind of the person you’re replying to, but you may get to someone else lurking. It just may be not be worth addressing the poster, but instead the points they shared.

What I’ve come to realize about Trump supporters over the past 10 or so years is that they fit into three boxes:

1. The Elites - They want what is best for them and the conservative policies always transfer wealth from the poor to the rich. Most of them won’t speak about Trump and definitely won’t tell you they will vote for him. The only ones in this category willing to openly support him do so under the assumption they will get an appointment or another promise from Trump. Most just want to silently support him due to the economics of it. They couldn’t care at all about women’s rights, public education, etc.

2. The Bible Thumpers - They do not care about any policies outside of how religion can be more ingrained into the political and public sector of our lives. Praying in school is more important than controlling the deficit. Banning abortions is more important than their own child’s education. They can easily support Trump because of the way they look at their own religion. They are the same people that use the Bible as proof the Bible is true. So of course it is easy for them to say “Trump actually meant…” when he breaks every commandment and brags about sexually assaulting women, dating porn actresses, cheating on wives, and so on.

3. The Deplorables - They actually don’t know what a policy really is and only like Trump because they feel this gives them the right to be openly racist, sexists, and overall hateful towards others living in America. These are some of the most uneducated people in America. They will never debate any quality points and instead go to the usual Truth Social bulletin points. If you bring up a real subject to discuss they will either ignore you (see FireItUp) or change the subject and deflect (also see FireItUp). These people love the drama of being his supporter more than they actually love Trump. Because they have nothing else to look forward to in their lives they get their joys from seeing how people react to their red hats and black & blue flags. Most couldn’t balance their home budget so they don’t see a problem with a President who added as much to the deficit as Obama did over double the years. They want one thing, freedom of speech without the consequences.

The truth is, Trump appeals to the lowest common denominators in American society. I don’t believe this was the case eight years ago and somewhat understand the reasoning for voting for him in 2016 (Dems fault for Hillary). However, anyone who voted for him a second time, let alone a third soon, is only doing so for their own self interest and nothing to do with making America great. It’s hard to watch family and friends here continue to parrot his talking points but can’t back anything up when I ask them simple questions. It’s been amazing to watch some of them see the light, but the ones that continue their support do so for very shallow reasons. But that’s all Trump supporters. They are not patriots. They are embarrassing.


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I would say, as no fan of Trump or the people following him, there is a 4th and largest category that of "The Duped". Who are really the long term victims of group #1 by virtue of having their education systematically underfunded, healthcare treated like a commodity and in some cases actually victimized via an addiction crisis, jobs outsourced or industries failed with no safety net, and they are proper angry. They have reason to be. But it's getting misdirected because of underfunding in education they don't actually understand the people they by and large vote for are screwing them over. They are correct that this problem hasn't really changed for them regardless of which party is in power in their state or communities or federally. And they viewed Trump as some "outsider" here to shake up the system. The truth is the system needs that. How people somehow decided this trust fund New York idiot is somehow their avatar is a tough thing understand really. It's very easy to do any lick of research and see his whole life has been about cheating the little guy and litigating people into nothing until they walkaway from contracts. He's never had strong business acumen. He's a fraud through and through. But for some reason they think he's fighting for them. If they knew anything about real politics and how their own circumstances are being played, they'd be Bernie supporters.
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