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Old 07-29-2024, 02:11 PM   #783
CliffFletcher
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The idea that coalition governments lead to more back-room wheeling and dealing is pretty ridiculous. Coalitions tend to lead to very public and widely covered wheeling and dealing, because it's much harder to hide that you're wheeling and dealing when you have multiple parties involved.

Also, "drag on for months and months..." The US senate has been going between barely functional and completely paralyzed as a decision making branch for two decades now.

It's honestly so bizarre that anyone would defend the US system of governance, it's just so obviously incredibly antiquated and disfunctional.
We were discussing FPTP vs PR in general. Going back to the example of the UK, if the latest election used the Scottish system of PR, labour would have won 236 seats instead of 411, taking them well out of majority territory, the populist right-wing Reform UK would have 94 MPs instead of five, and the Green Party 42 seats instead of 4.

Whether you think that would be a better result or not, it would clearly benefit the parties on the extremes. And Labour would have had to enter into three-way negotiations with the Liberal Democrats and Greens to form a government. Those negotiations would likely involve Labour making concessions that Labour voters might not have had in mind and that they had no say over.
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