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Old 07-22-2024, 08:26 AM   #1208
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Originally Posted by TOfan View Post
I don’t think it was Feaster’s call to rebuild. Jarome Iginla leaving forced the rebuild. That was Jarome’s decision, not Feaster, not Edwards.

I point to his hiring of Brian Burke. Burke was infamous for stating at the beginning of his Leafs tenure that he was not a patient man and ‘rebuild? My ass’ (I believe were his words). If there was a rebuild it was going to be a short as possible. I suspect it will be similar this time around too.

Think about it. If you were a GM, why wouldn’t you want to take 5,6,7 years to rebuild? Doesn’t work that way.

If you’re Steve Yzerman in Detroit, maybe you have that leeway but even he admitted recently that the pressure is starting to mount.

That's not exactly how things transpired with Iginla here. The talk that season was: "Will Iginla re-sign?", and Iginla publicly had to state that he wants to re-sign here and win, but that if the Flames are rebuilding, then he doesn't really want to be a part of that. Even ignoring this, one single person leaving the organization doesn't mean rebuild. After all, Gaudreau left for nothing unlike Iginla, and it did not trigger a rebuild until the subsequent moves proved more or less disastrous. Feaster could very well have turned around and traded Iginla for a 'win now' move, or moved those assets that he got for a 'win now' move to another team. He also didn't have to move Bouwmeester, who was signed for another year. That was his choice, and I am sure he got the buy-in from Edwards to do so.


Burke wasn't famous for "Rebuilding my ass'. He was famous for: "I am impatient". His thing was that rebuilds shouldn't take 5+ years to do. That a rebuild should only take a couple of seasons. I don't doubt that Burke contributed to the shortening of the rebuild, but this was not why he was hired. He was hired because the Flames' house was no longer in order and became a laughing stock around the league. Burke was brought in fix the Flames' reputation.


If I am a GM, I wouldn't want to take 5,6,7 years. Why would I? Other teams that have taken that long have rarely worked out well. I am in no way advocating for a rebuild to take that long, and I don't think that Conroy is planning for one that long. Now, I guess what is the definition of the 5-7 years. is the 5th year the 5th straight year you are picking high in the draft, or is it competing and making a 'run' that year? If it is the latter, then yes, my plan would be 5 years. 1 year to tear it down and pick reasonably high (what we just saw. 2 years of pickig high in the draft. Then naturally coming out of it - 1 more year in the top 10 or so, and then a bubble team/playoff team the following year. By year 7 you should have had at least a run if you did things well.


Yzreman's pressure is starting to mount because the team is stuck in quicksand there. They have been rebuilding for a long time and they look like a perennial rebuild now. They haven been rebuilding since 2017.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroi...of-the-rebuild


My point really is that Edwards isn't going to put his fingers in his ears and and demand that the Flames do not rebuild under any circumstances. They rebuilt in 2013 and now they are rebuilding again. All it takes is a GM to come in and put forth a solid plan. My whole entire point is built around Edwards not being a moron who hires puppets. He hires experts to guide this organization, and I believe that he listens to what they believe the organization should do. Maybe he doesn't always agree with them, but this is the 2nd rebuild in 11 years that this organization is undertaking. That doesn't scream: "No rebuild" to me.
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