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Calgary4LIfe · 07-08-2024, 10:15 AM

I think Peters was good for 3/4 of a season, didn't have the Flames playing well entering the playoffs, and then a young and 'relatively' inexperienced Bednar absolutely schooled Peters. The next season, there was a lot of noise about firing Peters, until his past finally caught up with him and he was axed (or paid to go away).

Treliving screwed up when he hired Gulutzan. I wonder what one more year of Hartley would have done for a guy like Bennett, for instance, but I will believe Treliving that the team couldn't do another year of him.

Obviously Peters was a mistake as well, due to the playoffs (and of course, his past). I do remember at the time of hiring, there was some noise coming out how one of the owners wanted Sutter. Treliving got his guy in Peters though.

I will also believe Treliving wanted Sutter before he replaced Peters with Ward, but that Sutter wasn't interested at the time. Why would Treliving lie about that?

I can see why Treliving and Sutter butted heads, just like it was easy to see why Darryl and Brent butted heads from the 2010 season onwards. It happens when there is a lack of success.

Treliving is still by far not the worst GM Calgary has ever seen, but I also think he is overrated by many here as well. He is so polarizing. I just think I would plop him in the middle somewhere. This is my ranking:

Fletcher - Stanley Cup finals + Stanley Cup
Sutter - Stanley Cup finals (and it was in!)
Coates - took over at a difficult time and made the most of it, including Iginla!
Treliving - did fine - but I would argue that he will be forgettable over time
Button - brought in some key pieces for the 2004 run, but also made some disastrous trades
Feaster - turned the Flames into a laughing stock
Riseborough - sure, tough environment at the time when he took over, but boy was he bad

Conroy was only one year so it is unfair to judge him. Burke was really only here for 6 months as an acting GM. Maloney was acting GM for 1 month.

Maybe people will rank them differently, and that's fine. I am most concerned with playoff success, or notable achievements. Coates goes higher than Treliving for me because he had to manage during the worst period for Canadian franchises, while also doing a pretty good job at it in bringing his "little bit for today, a little bit for tomorrow" trades that seemed to really work out. I won't argue if people see Treliving higher than Coates. Treliving gets lowered in my mind because he had the benefit of a salary cap, but still wasn't much success, and I think he turned this organization into something of a laughing stock in the last year with everyone wanting to leave suddenly, including a star walking for nothing.

07-08-2024, 10:15 AM	#223
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	I think Peters was good for 3/4 of a season, didn't have the Flames playing well entering the playoffs, and then a young and 'relatively' inexperienced Bednar absolutely schooled Peters. The next season, there was a lot of noise about firing Peters, until his past finally caught up with him and he was axed (or paid to go away). Treliving screwed up when he hired Gulutzan. I wonder what one more year of Hartley would have done for a guy like Bennett, for instance, but I will believe Treliving that the team couldn't do another year of him. Obviously Peters was a mistake as well, due to the playoffs (and of course, his past). I do remember at the time of hiring, there was some noise coming out how one of the owners wanted Sutter. Treliving got his guy in Peters though. I will also believe Treliving wanted Sutter before he replaced Peters with Ward, but that Sutter wasn't interested at the time. Why would Treliving lie about that? I can see why Treliving and Sutter butted heads, just like it was easy to see why Darryl and Brent butted heads from the 2010 season onwards. It happens when there is a lack of success. Treliving is still by far not the worst GM Calgary has ever seen, but I also think he is overrated by many here as well. He is so polarizing. I just think I would plop him in the middle somewhere. This is my ranking: Fletcher - Stanley Cup finals + Stanley Cup Sutter - Stanley Cup finals (and it was in!) Coates - took over at a difficult time and made the most of it, including Iginla! Treliving - did fine - but I would argue that he will be forgettable over time Button - brought in some key pieces for the 2004 run, but also made some disastrous trades Feaster - turned the Flames into a laughing stock Riseborough - sure, tough environment at the time when he took over, but boy was he bad Conroy was only one year so it is unfair to judge him. Burke was really only here for 6 months as an acting GM. Maloney was acting GM for 1 month. Maybe people will rank them differently, and that's fine. I am most concerned with playoff success, or notable achievements. Coates goes higher than Treliving for me because he had to manage during the worst period for Canadian franchises, while also doing a pretty good job at it in bringing his "little bit for today, a little bit for tomorrow" trades that seemed to really work out. I won't argue if people see Treliving higher than Coates. Treliving gets lowered in my mind because he had the benefit of a salary cap, but still wasn't much success, and I think he turned this organization into something of a laughing stock in the last year with everyone wanting to leave suddenly, including a star walking for nothing.