Yup, Ben V said it best, it was worse with the Young Guns because it felt so hopeless. The Flames didn't have a chance at high priced free agents (without even more of an overpay). They were at such a talent deficit it never felt like the would make the playoffs. I don't think anyone thought they had a chance even at the start of the 2004 year. Sutter and Kipper turned things around.
2023 sucked pretty hard as well, but the Flames took a stab at resetting after Johnny/Chucky and it didn't work. I understood why they tried, but in the end it wasn't likely to work, and it didn't. The hard part is just starting now.
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From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
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