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Old 06-23-2024, 05:05 PM   #1138
Aarongavey
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Originally Posted by RedHawk12 View Post
I kind of feel the opposite. The guy tried to build a winner and failed - and obviously it looks bad in hindsight only because we didn't win anything, but 31 other teams don't win anything each year.

I would argue again that some of his moves only look bad in hindsight because we didn't win, but there are so many variables to winning it's hard to pin everything on him.

Example - Getting Huberdeau and Weegar for a guy who demaded a trade was a miracle as far as "win-now" moves go. Who knew Huberdeau would have turned into such a pumpkin.

Example 2 - Monahan was traded for a 1st on the premise that he was completely broken, Huberdeau would completely replace Gaudreau if not be better, and we finally can sign a competent #2C who could play behind Lindy. Kadri for a broken Monahan on the verge of retirement and a 1st expected to be in the 20-25 range is a deal you made 10/10 as a contender. The fact that so many conditions were put in place as "just in case" is just good planning. We could have EASILY traded an unprotected 2024 1st to dump Monny.

Example 3 - Lindholm and Hanifin for Hamilton and Ferland was a slam dunk. Ferland hit his high-water mark in his last season with Calgary and was out of the league in a few years. Hamilton left CAR as a FA. Lindy and Hanifin were a huge part of our core when we were competitive and were traded for good packages to kick-start our rebuild.

Neal and Brouwer were fairly high-end UFA signings. Sometimes they don't work out. Markstrom, Tanev and Coleman were also high-end UFA signings and they did work out. The fact that this market was able to attract some high profile FA's - some of that should at least be credited to how aggressive Tre was in FA. The Markstrom and Tanev trades again set us up nicely for a rebuild. Wouldn't it have been great to have taken a couple of big swings like that when Iggy and Kipper were here? Instead of patchwork and trimming around the edges with guys like Amonte, McCarty, Bertuzzi, Morrison etc.?

The ONLY trade I 100% blame Tre for was Hamonic. We gave up a really good pick at a time whe we definitely weren't ready to go all in. There should have been some more long-term thinking there.

Also bridging Tkachuk for 3 years just to keep Frolik was 100% on Tre. But Backlund and Frolik were a pretty elite 3rd line pair at the time.

Tre left a mess only because he went all in in his last few years. But we were coming off of a Division championship and clear win-now mode. It's so easy to #### all over him now because our team is a mess, but Daryl left a mess just as big when he left. I say Tre built a better team than any GM we've had since maybe the mid 90s.
When Brouwer signed he had never had a season with more than 43 points .

Amonte was coming off a season of 53 points.
Bertuzzi was coming off a season of 40 points
Morrison was coming off a season of 42 points.

If Brouwer was a high profile signing then all of those guys were as well. They were all equal or better players than Brouwer at the time of the signing.
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