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Old 06-03-2024, 10:18 AM   #3992
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Man I just don't know (honestly).

I've heard so many different stories over the years, many that conflict with each other.

I've heard Edwards is a control freak in oil and gas, so the hints are there.

But then I've heard many times that he was almost absent when it comes to the Flames.

Then there's the normal level of owner involvement that would run across the league (involved in big signings, involved in big trades).

People hate Treliving now, but was it Edwards? Was it Treliving deciding on the Gaudreau contract the summer before he left? Or did Edwards say no? Did Treliving botch the Tkachuk contract not going 8 years? Or did Edwards? Or did the agent insist on the walk to free agency model that was the rage that summer?

Honestly have no clue.

I don't see Treliving as the level of Satan that most seem to here now, but I've often come back to the "going it alone" comment from Conroy which I just can't get behind.

Would be nice to know if things were fixed with a new GM or if the existing owner is still calling the shots.

Either way I don't see things as inept as many do. You build a core, you get a few years, then you do it again. The core they had just couldn't get it done.
There was the tidbit from Dreger that the Markstrom trade may have been nixed by ownership. Also it was widely speculated that the Sutter hire was an ownership call. Most of us don't really know, but I think there's enough smoke over the years that there seems to me some level of meddling.

I actually don't even care. I'm a fan, I don't need to see the inner workings of the organization. Just get a reasonable plan put together and start executing on it. I'm tired of all the smoke and mirrors of "retools" and "can't use the R word", "get in and anything can happen" and all this crap. Reality is you have to rebuild, you have to somehow acquire elite prospects, so just accept it and do it properly, whether its Edwards or the management staff. Stop pretending the Flames are a playoff team when they aren't, stop acting like they can contend when they can't. All most fans want to see is a reasonable approach towards building a good team.
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