Hey Nage, since you keep asking for it. Here we go.
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
If Gaza is a nation, their 'elected government' invaded another country and are currently defending themselves from the country they attacked. Not a genocide. All they need to do to stop this attack is surrender. Not genocide in any capacity and certainly offensive to those that have and are currently facing such threats.
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But Gaza isn't a nation. It is occupied territory. Hamas isn't the government because Gaza isn't an independent nation. Israel is way beyond the point of attempting to defend themselves. This point proves nothing.
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If Gaza was an ethnic group, they are the same ethnic group as Muslims living in Israel, Jordan, Syria, etc. Not a genocide. Same goes for racial and religious groups. A significant portion of Israel are Muslims, the same group as those living in Gaza and Israel treats them better than Hamas does. In fact, Israel also treats women better than they are treated in Gaza. Not genocide.
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I don't think you fully understand the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Here it is for reference.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
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In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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Read that bolded part again and then read what you said. Even if we are to agree that Palestinians in Gaza are essentially just the same as the Arabs living in Israel (yes), Lebanese and Syrians (debatable) or Jordanians and Egyptians (laughable), that doesn't mean that Israel isn't committing genocide. Again,
any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.
Do the Palestinians constitute a national, ethnical, racial or religious group? If you don't believe so, do they constitute part of a national, ethnical, racial or religious group?
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A and B and C are easily solved, just surrender. That will be especially hard since the majority of the population supports Hamas, but I guess years of brainwashing, murdering political opponents and ethnically cleansing Gaza from anyone else will result in people being afraid of speaking up. The education system has been exposed in Gaza, time for some changes when this is over.
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See, now you're just admitting to the crime. And no, just because you dislike the way Hamas operates, it doesn't make genocide OK. Genocide is never OK.
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D and D? are not happening. In fact, the population has grown steadily. So, no genocide.
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No again, that's not how genocide works. All 5 of those items don't need to be true for a genocide to be occurring. Reread please. Furthermore, I'm sure that since the beginning of this slaughter, the population hasn't increased. Your argument is illogical.
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This is a war and everything you want to happen, genocide of Israel, is what you are projecting onto Israel. Pretty gross. Israel has no advantage of Gaza being radicalized as they are now. Elect a moderate government, one that doesn't want war and one that doesn't have the pay to slay system like Abbas brings, and one where the citizens also don't want war. Then groups like Hamas will have more challenges building their infrastructure since civilians will report them. Let them prosper, like Muslims in Israel.
How about talking about what would make peace work or what military options Israel has to deal with the assorted genocidal terrorist groups on its borders?
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Stop with these accusations. This is silly.