Originally Posted by Azure
I think the thread has been very emotional for a lot of people, especially those with ties to the region, so there have been a lot of ridiculous personal attacks said. The mods can deal with them however they want, though I do think this thread is sort of an example of why things will likely never get fixed.
Also, you keep saying that Hamas should release the hostages, but you kinda ignore the fact that there are probably a hundred other things Hamas needs to stop doing before they release the hostages, including using civilians as human shields. Which of course they won't, because Hamas is literally doing what they set out to do.
1. Spend years building up military infrastructure among civilian areas, including stealing resources from the people of Gaza to build military infrastructure.
2. Use that military infrastructure, which is specifically hidden among civilian areas to launch attacks against Israel with the goal of getting Israel to retaliate.
3. Once Israel attacks, and Hamas accomplishes its goal of getting civilians killed, use social media and other media outlets to post about the 'horror' of what Israel has done, specifically duping people on social media to spread lies about the attacks before anyone even knows what has happened.
4. Then, on Oct 7th launch some of the most viscous and disgusting attacks on Israel, brutally raping, pillaging and murdering not only Israeli citizens, but also citizens of many other countries, all to get Israel to respond.
5. On Oct 8, resort back to point 3 and repeat again.
What you and many others don't seem to get is that regardless of what Israel will do today tomorrow or even for the next 10 years, Hamas will still continue repeating those 5 steps. Which begs the question, what do you think Israel should do to protect itself against Hamas, specifically knowing that Hamas INTENTIONALLY uses civilians and civilian areas as human shields, with the INTENT of getting them killed in order to further spread their lies and deceit and recruit more people to their cause. Of course you can't answer that question because you can't admit that those 5 steps are going to happen regardless of almost any action by Israel. Hamas has literally been funded to the tune of billions of dollars to accomplish these 5 steps.
So posting 'oh I have said dozens of times Hamas should release the hostages' is pretty disingenuous considering the hostages are likely dead, and that it isn't a solution for any of this outside of giving the poor families some closure.
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