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Old 05-27-2024, 05:31 PM   #2435
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Originally Posted by Jason14h View Post
Well he has been tied for the 13th most valuable player in all of baseball according to WAR, and 9th most valuable position players

https://www.espn.com/mlb/war/leaders

The list of guys ahead of him

Betts
Witt Jr
Henderson
Tucker
Judge
Ohtani
Duran
Soto

Those are some pretty good players last I checked.

But instead we could be trotting out Gurriell (Assuming we even signed him) and his 0.3 WAR and Moreno and his 0.5 WAR!

This is why I say your wrong. Because you continue to think replacing Varsho, KK, IKF with.... someone.... (Who you never actually say who the someone's are) would make a difference

The problem is your presumed all stars

Vlad 1.4 WAR
Bo 0.1 WAR
Springer -0.5 WAR
Kirk 0.3 WAR

Thats a total of 1.3 WAR through a quarter of the season from your core hitters. These were the 1-4 hitters at times when they were hitting well, and almost always 4 of the top 6

To put it in prospective - Varsho who you call a black hole offensively has a 1.2 OFFENSIVE WAR

If we were trotting out 4 Varsho's - exluding his D - just on offense instead of those bums above, we would have another 4 wins.

Those 4 are underforming by about 6 wins so far this season. That would put the Jays at 30-23 and in the wild card. Add in a bullpen implosion no one saw coming which has cost a few wins, and the team is right there with Baltimore, etc.

It isn't the supporting cast that is the problem. It is the (presumed) all stars.

And this is why it annoys me when people attack Atkins for this mess.

Yes, he has to take the blame in the end, but he actually built a good team, he just built it around what ended up being a rotten core. And I didn't hear anyone predicting in 2022 that Bo, Vlad, Springer and Kirk were the wrong guys to build around. Just about anyone would have done it.
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