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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Or what about the dozen plus other countries created when Israel was created? They always seem to be ignored by the 'anti-Zionists'.
Numerous countries were created as a result of the fall of the Ottoman empire (which was true colonialism). That included Israel and much of the middle east.
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I personally am against forming new nations on the basis of religious and/or ethnic groups. Looking at places such as the former Yugoslavia, they've gone from ethnically integrated places living in relative peace to segregated nations in a state of tension. Ultimately Yugoslavia failed, so maybe I'm the naive one.
That said, what you describe in your next post is the aspect of Israel that I think should absolutely be latched onto/expanded:
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Israel protects the rights of all of its citizens, regardless of religion.
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They made it clear, Israel will be land for everyone that supports it (it being equal rights, freedom of religion, speech, women, etc).
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These are the parts of Israel that need to be emphasized. In my opinion, having a nation explicitly tied to a religion is at odds of all religions being free and equal. There are many parts of being an Israeli that seem to be different if you are Jewish (gaining citizenship, etc.)
Hateful people are going to latch onto anything they can to appeal to their sense of tribalism. This is not excusable, but Israel as a multi-cultural, religiously diverse nation for all rather than a Jewish nation really defuses that angle of things. Palestinians should be crawling all over themselves to try and move to Israel. I agree with _Q_ in that ultimately the whole thing should be one state. If people can truly live as equals, that is the path.
Could someone obviously Palestinian walk down the main streets of Tel Aviv today and be treated as an equal?