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Old 05-06-2024, 02:08 PM   #1826
ben voyonsdonc
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Originally Posted by Jason14h View Post
Here our these players WAR this season

Teo 1.1
Soler -0.1
Hoskins 0.2
Martinez 0.0
Gueriel 0.3
Pederson 0.9 (Jays kicked the tire but he ended up going back on a show me deal because no one would pay his asking price)

We signed

Turner 0.7
IKF 0.7

So what did you want to team to do?

Vlad is 0.4 WAR, Bo -0.5, and Springer 0.1

So we could have got rid of those 3 guys, signed Teo, Gueriel, and Hoskins, had IKF play SS and we would have.... about 1.5 more wins on the season

I hate Atkins and his approach. I hate our inability to develop players. I hate our non aggresive basepath approach. I hate that all our hitters have the same weaknesses and attribute it to coaching

But to continue and trot out that they made some monumental error in the offseason is insane to me. The two guys we signed have been 2 of our best players and better then almost every other FA

Unless you think somehow Ohtani and Soto would end up here (And they tried) I am not sure what you wanted the Jays to do

They had no choice but to put their eggs in the Vladdy and Bo Basket and to an extent Kirk.
Guerrero’s WAR for the entire 2023 season was 1.3. Teo’s almost matched that WAR in a quarter of a season. Vlad simply hasn’t looked like a guy who can carry a team since 2021. He’s led the team in WAR only one time in his career.

I still think Bo will turn it around but he needs guys who can regularly drive him in.

Springer is likely washed at the plate. He hasn’t been the $25 million player that we needed him to be in a few years.

IKF has had a decent start with the Jays but he hasn’t been a consistent 1 WAR player throughout his career.

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