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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
The most important thing the jays need to figure out is why these young core players are dying on the vine.
You go back to 2021 and 2022 the Jays looked poised to be a juggernaut with a young core that looked unstoppable.
Vlad was an early 20's 6+ WAR in 2021, 2nd in MVP voting and triple crown contender
Bo was an early 20's perennial 4+ WAR SS
Manoah came into the league with 6 WAR in his first season and a half and was a CY finalist
Pearson was the top pitching prospect in all of baseball and DOMINATING AAA
Kirk's bat could not be stopped all the way up the MiLB ladder and he broke into the league the same way and was a 4 WAR catcher
I don't think a single person on the planet would have predicted that we'd be sitting here in 2024 five weeks into the season with those 5 core pieces being basically replacement level as a group.
It's a total disaster.
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The bats are the biggest concern, and it feels to me like bats actually have gotten worse the more time they spend on this roster / in this organization.
I think they need to clean house and get a different message to these players.
In terms of pitchers it's actually the same too for a while now...veteran pitchers seem to do well here but the young guys fall of a cliff at some point...Romero, Sanchez, Stroman, Manoah...all fall of a cliff.