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Old 05-05-2024, 11:19 PM   #6463
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza View Post
I have been very clear about the settlers for years here, not sure why you are saying I ignored something. If there is legit discussion, I am happy to answer. I know several posters like to pretend otherwise, but I am pretty good. Unless I miss the question entirely.

The settlers don't exist anywhere near Hamas, unless Hamas is also in the West Bank. In fact, Israel forced out every jew from Gaza 20 years ago, that is when Hamas prospered in Gaza. So it really isn't fair to say that because there are settlers, Hamas can recruit. Israel withdrew what would basically be settlers in Gaza, and extremism replaced them.

Regarding settlers adjacent to the West Bank, yes they are controversial. But Israel considers this Israeli land. You would have to walk through whose land you think it is, which is a rather academic process. It isn't just the land is Palestinian, there are numerous factors associated with it. It could all go away if Palestinians make peace with Israel, there would be a land swap as per the peace plan.

Multiple posts in this thread made some major accusations about settlers - not all have been in some crazy violence, but some certainly have. In general, settlers will say Palestinians did X, so we did Y, and visa versa. I don't approve of any of that. The two sides need to find common ground and create steps to get there. If Israelis had guarantees to safety, I am fairly confident that they would be happy with an outcome. That isn't quite the same on the Palestinian side, we can I am sure agree there are major players on the Palestinian side whose goal is not peace. Not everyone mind you, but a significant boulder to move.
I think there are arguments to be made for Hamas using the Settlers as recruiting ammo - but I don't even want to get into that.

You gave me a level headed response sharing your opinion, and treated my words at face value.

That's a win, and more of that would make this thread more productive and less frustrating. So I'm just going to thank your post and leave things there.
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