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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Lol. It is a counting stat based in fact.
On for ~84 GA and 40 GF. It is not useless, it is exactly what it is
He had some highlight reel plays for sure and the team did way worse 5 on 5 with him on the ice than off
It’s really that simple
Especially when you’re the worst on the team. It’s not him being impacted by everybody else
When you watched him in junior, he put butts in seats and outscored his problems. Some of us suspected it would take time to adjust from no defensive responsibility at all to being well rounded in the highest league (and hilariously you had a lot of people getting really bent out of shape about even that)
Nobody can deny the skill but his team was way worse with him than everyone else. Many players were in the barely positive through -15/-20 range
Whatever, he’ll get the trophy. We all knew it in September
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If +/- is considered a “counting stat” it’s the only one which tells you nothing about what a player did to get the stat aside from stepping onto the ice. A goal or an assist says the player contributed in some way to a goal being scored for the team. A minus says nothing about what the player did. He could have played his position perfectly, he could have barely gotten on the ice on a line change, he could have scored an own goal. Who knows based on the stat? Good offensive players on poor teams are going to rack up minuses just off of ENG goals against.