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Originally Posted by Azure
Oh also, this idea of 'oh look they killed civilians again', and using it as a designation to decide that both sides are equally bad, or even a terrorist state like Zary keeps pouting about when he takes a break from protesting is quite interesting, as the US has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in the Middle East the past few decades, often with indiscriminate drone attacks where they actively said 'civilian casualties are acceptable at certain rate of terrorist to civilians that are killed.' This is the same doctrine that Israel is using in Gaza. Is the US a terrorist state as well? Did the US actively commit war crimes? Were individual US military members or commands reprimanded for their actions during those conflict? Does that mean the entire US military is a terrorist run organization, and by extension the US government, who commands the US military as well?
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You're conflating very different things though. The US didn't directly kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in the Middle East. The vast majority of civilian deaths occurred as a result of the insurgency, terrorist actions, and sectarian violence after the invasion. Based on the Iraq Body Count Project, only about 25K civilian deaths are attributable to US/coalition forces (and that includes Iraqi forces). You talk about Fallujah; there were an estimated 600-700 civilian deaths total in the nearly 2-month second battle. That's about 4 days worth of civilian deaths in Gaza.
Obviously the US was still ultimately responsible for setting the chain reaction that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. But to compare civilian death numbers between that and Israel directly killing civilians with bombs is ridiculous.