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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
OK and what's wrong with posting counter arguments?
That report has value because it's objective and based on data. As opposed to you "looking at the draft and thinking meh".
Folks are welcome to counter with alternative data points.
But basically you trust your subjective opinion over an actual piece of analysis. Which you can do. I'll go with data.
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The 'problem' with the Athletics article is while is summarizes that the Flames are the 2nd best drafting team, when they break it down it actually shows they are more "meh" then great if you arent including Adam Fox - A player who fell in the draft because people know he wouldn't sign
So if we remove a player who never had any intention of playing for the Flames and was drafting lower because other teams knew it was a possiblity he would be hard to sign, here is what they are left with - From the article you like to use to reinforced "2nd best drafting team"
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Calgary’s picks outside of the first round include Johnny Gaudreau, Adam Fox, Rasmus Andersson, T.J. Brodie, Andrew Mangiapane, Dillon Dube, Adam Ruzicka and Oliver Kylington among others. Couple that mid-round success with landing a superstar like Matthew Tkachuk at No. 6 in 2016 and you have an impressive pool of talent for a team that lacked a high volume of picks. It’s too bad that many of the best players here are no longer on the team.
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They are now going back to TJ Fricken Brodie? That was 2008!! And even Brodie was at best a 2nd pairing D. Look at the other players. Outside JG its a bunch of.... Meh. Rasmus Andersson is a nice piece, if hes your 3rd or 4th best D.
According the the article - They are 25th best in drafting in the 1st round, 16th best in the 2nd round, but 3rd best in the "mid rounds" - And almost entirely driven by a player who didnt have any chance of actually playing for them and JG.
It also is only using players up to 2018. I get the last 5 years hasnt played out , but when MT is giving a lot of the wins above replacement Im dont think the statistical relevancy is there. That was 8!! years ago
To you does that actually sound like the 2nd best drafting team, and a team capable of finding late 1st and 2nd round gems/stars better then other teams? It actually shows the opposite. They are very bad at drafting when it matters