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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Ah, real posts, I'm glad HOZ didn't kill the thread completely. Thank you to you and Psycnet for providing a jewish perspective on this.
While I agree with you that a minority group wanting their own country is not akin to racism, ghettoization, indescriminant killing and apartheid style policies are racist. The cantons in Gaza and the West Bank are no different than Germany's ghettos or South Africa's Bantu Stands in my opinion, and they should be seen as such.
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They are actually quite different. The ultimate goal of the gaza and west bank is an autonomous palestinian state. Also killing is not indiscriminate. You may want to think differently, but Israel is attacked everyday. ALL attacks are directed at militants. Yes there are lots of civilian casaulties, but that is because militatnts hide w/out uniforms in civilian areas.
Also there is no apartheid in Israel. there are 1.5 millino arab citizens w/in Israel who enjoy full citizenship. The arabs in the west bank and gaza are not Israeli citizens, so they are treated differently. Hopefully one day we will see two states living side by side, but even the staunchest pro-palestinian must admit that Israel's actions are not the only obstacle to this.
Also comparing israel's actions to the nazi's (which you have done w/ the reference to Germany's ghettos) is totally out of line. If Israel's actions were in anyway comparable there would be no problem since there would be no palestinians. Instead, the palestinians are one of the fastest growing groups in the world. THey went from numbering a few hundred thousand at the begining of the 1900s to about 10 million today.
I'm not sure what kind of a soluiton you would propose to this problem, but befoer you say anything keep in mind there were no checkpoints or wall until the suicide bombings started happening on mass at the start of the second infitada.