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Old 04-11-2024, 03:50 PM   #11700
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi View Post
Assuming you understand this and given that you appear to be desperately eager to make me look like I’m wrong in this or defending him for calling for the delay of the release can you please point to any documents provided by CSIS or anyone else’s testimony that show Dong actually calling for the delay of their release? I’m guessing probably not.
Reread what I quoted and try again. I mean I even bolded it for you. You couldn't ascertain how on earth the CPC could benefit from the Michaels being released early, and you still can't acknowledge when the CSIS summary has Han Dong giving the exact same conclusion I did.

The summary states that Dong strongly insinuated that the release of the Michaels early would help the CPC, but even as the summary states this, you are going about 'well it still doesn't say to actually delay the Michaels release'.

Spin spin spin.

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I don’t know why you feel that way but you tend to make a lot of bizarre statements/accusations that aren’t based in reality so this one doesn’t really surprise me. You’re essentially saying that because I’m saying no hard evidence has been presented thus far that I wouldn’t acknowledge it if/when it is presented, which is both absurd and completely unfounded.
You already don't acknowledge CSIS's words as you continuously discredit them, and even the summary of the source, which confirms the leaker source as legitimate, is not enough for you. If you want to hinge all hope on the transcript translations that's your hill to die on. There's a reason why Han Dong stated he doesn't recall what he said in a conversation, because he knows the transcripts exist, and his whole defense hinges on a mistranslation (of a transcript which is still confidential at this time but of which we have a summary no less).

You know what else was revealed in Han Dong's testimony and cross examination that I did not mention?

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The CSIS intelligence summary also alleges Dong “stressed that any transparency provided by the PRC in relation to the ‘Two Michaels’ such as a court hearing or a court date, would help to placate Canadian public opinion and provide some valuable talking points to his own political party against the opposition.”
That conversation occurred in Feb 2021. What happened within a month after that conversation?

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/michaels...neau-1.1578590

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Mar 17, 2021

China court dates set for detained Canadians Michael Spavor, Kovrig: Feds
The Canadian Press.

WASHINGTON - The federal government says Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, who have been in custody in China for more than two years, will have court hearings in the coming days.

Foreign Affairs Minister Marc Garneau says the Canadian Embassy in Beijing was notified today that Spavor's court hearing will take place Friday and Kovrig's will happen Monday.

He says their detentions are "arbitrary" and that Canada continues to work "tirelessly" to secure their release.
How convenient! Of course you will be right here to state this court date release is a pure coincidence and pure conjecture and spin it again.

You want to continue this silly spin path? If anything it's only going to get worse as we get more info. The transcript exists, CSIS is aware of the info and what actually transpired (as does Dong). It being confidential does not exonerate Han Dong nor does it make you win an argument by default on the basis of 'no evidence'.

What I don't understand is why you are even on such a staunch defense to begin with for any reason outside of blind partisanship.

Last edited by Firebot; 04-11-2024 at 03:53 PM.
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