[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by llama64

Is the Earth 6000 years old? Yes. Is it older then that? Most definetly! What does the Bible mean by "years"? Who the hell knows...

Oh boy, the old "we're not sure what they meant" argument. Funny, but these yahoos are pretty certain about everything in the bible from a moral standpoint, but now they aren't so sure about certain things like units of measure, many of which have been scientifically proven to exist and in the form described in the good book. I've always loved the selective evidence angle. Sorry, but if one part of the story is garbage, the whole thing is garbage.

Fundamentalist Christians are deliberetly blinding themselves by refusing to take anything other then the Bible as truth. At the same time, Aethiests continuously prove that they are nothing but ignorant fools in their own right. Has science proven that god does NOT exist?

Ignorant fools? By not believing in something that has NOT been proven to exist? Nice contradiction. The people that believe in the existence of big foot, UFOs, the Loch Ness monster have long been considered on the fringe, but by your standard they are the elightened ones? After all, science has not been able to prove that these things do NOT exist.

Question: When does religion prove that God DOES exist?

For that matter, has science even proved that we actually exist? Every element of knowledge requires some leap of faith and blind acceptance. Is it so wrong that some people would rather believe that there is purpose to the universe rather then a cold belief in nothing?

Yes, science has proved we exist, at least in the universe I reside. But there is the rub. It can be argued that our reality is a personal experience and that none of our surroundings exist except in our own minds. But that is another topic for debate.

You are dead wrong on you assumption in the last paragraph. Knowledge requires no leap of faith. Knowledge is gained through the understanding of repeated events. That is what makes science work, and what makes religion fail. Science does not deem anything valid until it can be replicated and documented. Cold fussion has reportedly been attained, expanding out knowledge, by your estimation. That is a fallacy, because the experiment has never been successfully repeated. At this point, cold fussion is no more a point of fact, and an addition to our knowledge base, than the aforementioned big foot. Cold fussion is a great theory (nee story), but until someone can prove that it exists, its just a pipe dream that some people continue to believe.

Until someone can definitively prove that God does not exist, I think I'll choose to belive that there is something out there greater then myself. The great thing about belief is that it's maleable. Only morons allow themselves to get locked into one mode of thinking...

Good for you. You may choose to believe what ever the hell you want, that is your right. You'll have to live with the fact that there are people out there that don't care to take the yellow way out and hedge their bets that there is a God. You claim there is a God, the onus is on you to prove it. I, and others like me, don't claim that God doesn't exist, just that we choose to not believe in the organized religious BS that is dreamed up to support "him" and "his glory". I think we're all open to the possibility of there being a God, or at least something out there bigger than us, we're just waiting for a little proof of this something that is bigger than us.

And speaking of morons... aren't you locked into your own single mode of thinking? Seems like you based on the open mind you have projected in your post.