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Originally Posted by opendoor
I would also add that the "vote Democrat or else" line of argument only works for so long. Democrats obviously aren't going to win every single election until the end of time. So if you continually position them losing the Presidency as the end of democracy in the US, then that just makes it an inevitability which breeds apathy.
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Pointing out that another Trump presidency means the end of democracy isn't "positioning" or whatever you want to call it, it is simply pointing out the factual truth of the situation. Have a look at Project 2025 and Agenda 47. They openly lay out their plans for America and the world as soon as they get back into power.
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Look at reproductive rights for instance. People will fight for that, but if voting Democrat doesn't actually accomplish anything that won't just be overturned when the Republicans get into power, what are people fighting for? At best you're just delaying the inevitable, which means people who aren't particularly enthusiastic for Biden will probably just stay home.
Sure if you dig down you can say that long-term change requires the courts and voting Democrat will lead to more progressive courts. But the average voter really doesn't think in those terms. And even if they do, recent history doesn't really bear that out. Republicans have only held the Presidency for 12 of the last 32 years, but they've named 6 of the 9 Supreme Court justices.
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Which is evidence that the system is rigged in favor of those seeking to constantly do harm to society and always make things as good as possible for the rich and well connected, at the expense of everyone else. The system needs major changes, such as doing away with the electoral college, put in place strict anti-gerrymandering rules, abolish the filibuster, and have term limits for supreme court justices. Those changes alone would make a big difference.
To sit back and say "evil people will eventually take power again and abolish all our rights, so we might as well let it happen now" is a bunch of spineless crap. Come on people, you're better than that. You need to be pushing back against them at all times with every mechanism you have.
Just to think of all the people who died throughout history so that people today could have the right to do things like vote, protest without being persecuted for it, and so on. And people are willing to throw that away because "oh, we're eventually gonna lose anyway". Get outta here with that crap.