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Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache
He has never been a difference maker so far in his career while being surrounded by good players.
Maybe he'll pull a Bouwmeester and win a cup later in his career but don't see that happening.
He is definitely a good player but don't see him as a difference maker. Hes not someone that'll take the game over.
To me he is a Bouwmeester lite.
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Define difference maker and "taking over a game".
Sure a guy like Cale Makar can do that, but they are unicorns.
I'd be curious to see your list of dmen who "take over a game".
You've got a group of amazing offensvie dmen in the NHL: Hughes, Makar, Josi, Fox, Dahlin. I don't think anyone is pretending he's in a group like that.
To me he's in the group that would include the likes of Devon Toews, Gustav Forsling, Mortiz Seider, Morgan Rielly. Really strong two-way defenseman that can anchor your top pairing.
I don't disagree Bouwmeester is a good comparison. But Flames fans also underappreciated him because they were expecting a guy to be more way more offensive than he was ever going to be. But he was still an excellent dman.
The stats suggest he's a very good dman. Your counter arguments are framed in cliches.