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Old 03-12-2024, 05:35 PM   #13404
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Those are numbers cited by the Economist, the Carnegie Endowment, and the Washington Post - hardly organizations that have a track record of peddling pro-Russian propaganda.

Yes, the internal economy of Russia is murky, and it’s hard to get credible information. But if we’re to assume none of the economic data about Russia is credible, then we have no way of knowing if sanctions are hurting them at all. And where does that leave us?

What we do have is data showing that Russian trade with China, India, Turkey, Egypt, the Central Asian Republics, and the Gulf States is booming. This isn’t the 90s anymore, and the West doesn’t have a stranglehold on global trade. Most of the developing world doesn’t consider the invasion of Ukraine to be any of their business, and they’ll happily circumvent sanctions against Russia if it’s good business for them.
Those are all outlets that peddled the Russian separatist myth giving cover to Putin's maneuvering since the 2014 revolution. Most of them had Russian bureaus stocked with the usual "good russians" filling our craw with russophile manure, state sanctioned or not.

Disbelief in anything from Russia is the only prudent path forward, these people are irredeemable cattle. They hate us, they wish to destroy the post WW2 world order and we should perceive it this way until the whole thing collapses.
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