Originally Posted by looooob
Player 1 1222 GP 403 points +448 * one 2nd team all star
Player 2 1254 GP 431 points +260 ** King Clancy award
* 10th all time, the rest of the top 21 are HOFers their names are Robinson, Orr, Bourque, Gretzky, Clarke, S Savard, Potvin, Lidstrom, Trottier, Lafleur, M Howe, Stevens, Shutt, Bossy, MacInnis, Park, Chelios, Lemaire, Lapointe Mikita
** 39 overall- still good and mostly surrounded by HOFers but getting into guys like Terry Harper, Ken Hodge and Jimmy Watson
now I realize +/- can be a (very) flawed stat, but when you are +448 and surrounded by elites it is saying something. inducting that player would not cheapen the HOF
player 2 is of course Lowe, player 1 a former Flame and Stanley Cup champ
both benefited from playing on very good teams, and were I suppose defensive /non-elite offensive Dmen hard to judge by available metrics
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