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Old 03-09-2024, 12:26 PM   #1245
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Rube, what evidence do you have that shows compelling people to treatment doesn’t work? If the metric used is that it’s not 100% effective than obviously. People need to stop looking for a panacea and start looking at the most realistic option. The current model being utilized (especially in BC with decrim) has been a colossal failure, resulting in MORE overdoses and MORE deaths. But what changes? Instead of circling back and reviewing their policies, the chief medical officer and chief coroner insist that “safe supply” is the answer. Addicts seek out fentanyl, full stop. Why? Because heroin doesn’t match the high of fent.

The people making these policy decisions are academics who are creating policy on theory vs lived experience. Even addictions nurses I’ve worked with in the past are completely naive. Several of them told me that it was so great that they had solved the addiction problem because they provided a safe consumption site and that after an addict used, they were good for the day. I had to break the news that several hours adter they used, they then used again in a friends basement, or again in an alley, or again in a shelter.

Create government run treatment facilities that are voluntary (choose this or choose jail). Provide detox, provide education, provide half way houses that are not contracted out, they are run by corrections. Maybe it only achieves 30% success rate but I’d take that over the current situation any day.

Also deal with the root cause, beef up customs to intercept fentanyl imports. Create a national ports police and hand down substantial sentences for opioid traffickers/importers.

No one in government is taking this seriously. Sometimes decisions need to be made for people who can’t or won’t make them for themselves. Especially those decisions that impact the lives of the average citizen who doesn’t deserve to have their property stolen or be accosted near a bus stop or a park. The real crime is allowing people to waste away on the streets and enabling their addiction.
We don't have any ability to stop drugs due to the increased strength of fenty, that is the whole point of it, it comes in incredibly small easy to hide packets and is cheap to make and buy at wholesale, you get it mailed from China, India or Mexico and it hides in the ocean of millions of packages due to the globalization of trade, my guess is I alone, as does everyone else on this site, gets 3 or 4 packages from outside Canada a month, there is no way to stop it not due to the scale of drug use but due to the scale of packages arriving every day, the drug trade relies on thousands of packages arriving every day, some get caught, most get through
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