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Originally Posted by Coach
Yeah I agree it's her responsibility to say no etc...and that she should be guilty.
When they talked about armourer days vs props days and that she was actually working both the whole time etc... I know EXACTLY what that is. Happens all the time on these types of sets that people are doing two jobs like that. Sounds like she pushed back on having more days and the UPM mentioned "they could add more days as they go", thats some BS. It shows they didn't have enough days off the start and expected Gutierrez to just make due despite likely only being paid to be props when she was actually doing armourer work etc...
The pro armourer too mentioned the type of team he would be using. Well you need someone at the cart, these guns need to be handled this way, locked up, these people shouldn't be left holding them between shots, these ones need to be reloaded between takes, etc.... His whole process would require an extra person if dealing with more than one gun unless she worked incredibly slowly, which I KNOW is not acceptable. And you can see the footage of Baldwin, star and producer, her boss and Hollywood legend shouting at her to be faster. That things should be prepped. When? By who? Your armourer is right in front of you loading everyones weapons. So you've either understaffed her, or you need to offing wait. If she requested this off the bat and was denied and took the job anyways, yeah it's on her, and so is not standing up for safety in those times. But the production IMO is at fault for not properly resourcing that very important safety position.
I've been put in similar positions when dealing with things like fire or stunt glass etc... No body gives a f*** about safety until something bad happens and it can be very difficult to continually be the bad guy telling people to shut things down or move slower. As a man with a relatively commanding presence, I can usually do that, but I know some of my colleagues who are women struggle with getting trounced over like this. And I know being "difficult" has caused me work as well when people wanted to do something they knew I would object to or require more safety for. The lesson they learn is to call someone who won't say no, not to adjust their budget accordingly.
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Yeah unfortunately the Baldwin trial is only about him pulling the actual trigger. While there's plenty to suggest that Baldwin himself was a problem, that specific moment feels almost irrelevant to me, it was just the specific random stupid thing that finally killed someone, in a production which was just generally unsafe to begin with.
At least according to Wikipedia (which links to a summary of investigation that's not publicly available), Gutierrez-Reed wasn't even technically the armorer on the day of the accident, and hadn't been for several days, just a props assistant. I assume that this was more about what she got paid than what she was actually supposed to be doing, but clearly people were walking all over her in this production.
This was her second production, and there had already been complaints about her handling of guns in her first production. The movie was The Old Way, starring Nicholas Cage, who walked off the set due to Gutierrez discharging a firearm without warning.
The assistant director, Halls, who already plead guilty in the Rust case had also previously been fired from one production due to "an unexpected firearms discharge".
While Gutierrez-Reed is clearly unqualified to even hold a gun properly, let alone be an armorer, and shouldn't even have presented herself as qualified to do the job, it's probably not just a random thing that she and Halls got hired on this production.
I'm sure they were cheap, and possibly both were looking at their last chances to work in the industry.