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Originally Posted by liamenator
I don't disagree at all about Canadian markets. It's an unfortunate recent development that's going to require teams to rethink their approach to hockey operations.
Regarding the other points -- I didn't say it was a conspiracy, or that other teams are "picking" on Conroy. I said they are trying to squeeze a first-year GM. I didn't mean to imply that it was unique to Conroy or the Flames. It happens every year.
My point is that it's compounding an already difficult set of circumstances. And, by extension, I'm not convinced Brisson and Hanifin would try this approach against a more experienced GM.
I'm also not sure there are as many precedents for how Brisson and Hanifin are (allegedly) handling this as you suggest. Could you provide an example or two of a player and his agent trying to not only steer his trade to a preferred destination, but also dissuade potential rental suitors from becoming involved, so as to ensure the client receives an 8-year contract? Maybe this has happened a bunch before, but I can't recall many examples.
Finally, I'm not talking about taking a vastly inferior deal. I said "slightly lesser." What I mean is: if Tampa thinks it has the Flames over the barrel and presents an offer that's not market value for an extended Hanifin, and there are deals from rental suitors that are lesser but proximate to what TB is offering, maybe you sacrifice a little in the short term to dissuade players and agents from acting in the future as Brisson and Hanifin have been.
I mentioned the Burke and Cammelleri non-trade as analogous to what I mean here. Do you think Burke's decision to not trade Cammallerri was foolish, an example of cutting off the nose to spite the face? If so, fair enough, but I disagree. I think it was wise in the long-run in terms of rebuilding the franchise's reputation after the Feaster years, in which the Flames seem to have become known as an easy get around the league. I'm suggesting Conroy do something similar, though more proactive, here.
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Mark Stone and Giroux off the very top of my head.
And the Burke thing was absolutely foolish. The market doesn't lie at TDL. Value is what the value is. I think it's pretty unlikely that a 3rd wasn't on the table for Cammi - even if it was something like a 3rd+7th for Cammi+5th. You know who got drafted in the 3rd round that summer? Brayden Point. Now of course it's a fantasy that it would play out like that, but you can't win the lottery if you don't hold any tickets.