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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I think you are correct with respect to other leagues, that said, some women's leagues already explicitly excludes an entire sex. It is a league built on the differences between men, and women in sports. I don't think that there is a problem with that. It isn't a trans, or LBGTQ thing in every instance( though everyone needs to admit that for some people it is 100% about that). Some women chose to make their own league because they didn't want to play co-ed. This is different than other instances of segregation in sports.
In all, I think that the issue is marginal, because any athlete who is good enough would want to compete against their peers. Still, in the rare circumstance that someone does play womens sports out of principal and ruins the spirit of competition, the league should be able to ask them to play in a different league without criticism.
I look at it like when I play seniors hockey, there is an implicate understanding that I will not skate as hard as I can ( would like to). If I did they would ask me not to come back until I am ready to play slow.
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I think this is totally fair, so long as trans people are not singled out. And I like your analogy to the seniors league.
I’m not arguing for dismantling women’s sport or ignoring all biological differences between competitors. If an athlete in a women’s competition, trans or cis, has an observable and significant advantage over their competitors due to something like significantly higher testosterone levels, I think removing them from competition is fair, and I think elite athletes would agree.
Just make it a case by case basis, and if limits are required to ensure fairness, make them apply to cis women and trans women equally. That’s at least an attempt at fairness, to me.