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timun · 02-21-2024, 08:28 PM

*siiiiiiiiiiigh*...

So, that clip was from yesterday's Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates meeting, not today (which you linked). And of course 34 seconds of a tweet is insufficient to give full context to what was actually being discussed.

See https://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Harmony/en...40221/-1/41088 @ 14:12:13 for the beginning of Scheer speaking, as follows:

SCHEER: Thank you very much Mr. Chair, I'd like to move a motion that I'll just provide a little bit of context for before I move it. Little bit of a recap of what brings us here today, to the motion that I'd like to propose, and it has to do with the ArriveSCAM app, and some of the shocking revelations that we've heard from the Auditor General and her findings. To back up: during the pandemic, this, uh—it was decided to bring in—the government decided to bring in an app for Canadians, forcing Canadians to use this app, to document their crossing the border into Canada. It should have cost just around eighty thousand dollars; instead, so far, the Auditor General has concluded that it is at least sixty million dollars in cost attributed that, and that's based on what she can find.

KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order, Mr. Chair.

McCAULEY (chair): Yes, Mr. Kusmierczyk.

KUSMIERCZYK: Yes, I would appreciate it if—if my honourable colleague would ground his statement in fact, not fiction—

GENUIS: That's not a point of order.

KUSMIERCZYK: —and exaggeration. So, uh, again, I think it's important that we ground our discussions here. I know he's new to this committee—

GENUIS: <chuckles, continues to interrupt>

KUSMIERCZYK: —but I'd appreciate that he would ground his arguments and his interventions—

McCAULEY: Mr. Genuis, let him speak.

KUSMIERCZYK: —in fact.

McCAULEY: Thank you Mr. Kusmierczyk. Is your hand up on this point of order, Mr. Genuis, or can we proceed?

GENUIS: No I was raising it to be added to the speaking list and this is clearly not a point of order, just a dilatory tactic, so I think that—

McCAULEY: Okay, thank you. We'll go back to Mr. Scheer, please.

SCHEER: Yeah, just to let the record show that the Liberal MPs are now calling the findings of the Auditor General "fiction", so, uh, that, uh, that's new to me, Mr. Chair!

KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order! Point of order!

SCHEER: But, uh, that's what I heard.

KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order, Mr. Chair.

McCAULEY: <shaking his head> Yup.

KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order, Mr. Chair.

McCAULEY: I've got you, Mr. Kusmierczyk.

KUSMIERCZYK: I really don't appreciate—I don't appreciate my colleague ascribing to me statements that I do not hold, and uh, and I ask—

SCHEER: You just said it!

KUSMIERCZYK: —that he retracts—I ask that he—no no no, I said that YOU should stick to facts, not fiction. Not the Auditor General, whose recommendations absolutely—

BARRETT: Point of order.

KUSMIERCZYK: —I respect.

McCAULEY: Okay. Mr. Barrett, and then hopefully we can get back to Mr. Scheer.

BARRETT: Chair: wants and feelings. I'm just wondering if we can point to those in the standing orders—

McCAULEY: Okay, that's not a point of order... <sighs and chuckles>

BARRETT: —or if we're just gonna, or if these are indeed dilatory tactics, and Liberal members should, ah, should restrain themselves.

McCAULEY: We will ask everyone to maintain some decorum. Mr. Scheer, we'll get back to you.

SCHEER: Just for the record I was quoting the Auditor General from her appearance just this morning, but basically what we're dealing with is twenty million dollars' worth of contracts going through to GC Strategies. The Auditor General has told us, and told committees, [etc]

A bunch of grandstanding jackasses on all sides. Our government at work.

02-21-2024, 08:28 PM	#11058
timun First Line Centre Join Date: May 2012 Exp:	siiiiiiiiiiigh... So, that clip was from yesterday's Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates meeting, not today (which you linked). And of course 34 seconds of a tweet is insufficient to give full context to what was actually being discussed. See https://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/Harmony/en...40221/-1/41088 @ 14:12:13 for the beginning of Scheer speaking, as follows: SCHEER: Thank you very much Mr. Chair, I'd like to move a motion that I'll just provide a little bit of context for before I move it. Little bit of a recap of what brings us here today, to the motion that I'd like to propose, and it has to do with the ArriveSCAM app, and some of the shocking revelations that we've heard from the Auditor General and her findings. To back up: during the pandemic, this, uh—it was decided to bring in—the government decided to bring in an app for Canadians, forcing Canadians to use this app, to document their crossing the border into Canada. It should have cost just around eighty thousand dollars; instead, so far, the Auditor General has concluded that it is at least sixty million dollars in cost attributed that, and that's based on what she can find. KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order, Mr. Chair. McCAULEY (chair): Yes, Mr. Kusmierczyk. KUSMIERCZYK: Yes, I would appreciate it if—if my honourable colleague would ground his statement in fact, not fiction— GENUIS: That's not a point of order. KUSMIERCZYK: —and exaggeration. So, uh, again, I think it's important that we ground our discussions here. I know he's new to this committee— GENUIS: <chuckles, continues to interrupt> KUSMIERCZYK: —but I'd appreciate that he would ground his arguments and his interventions— McCAULEY: Mr. Genuis, let him speak. KUSMIERCZYK: —in fact. McCAULEY: Thank you Mr. Kusmierczyk. Is your hand up on this point of order, Mr. Genuis, or can we proceed? GENUIS: No I was raising it to be added to the speaking list and this is clearly not a point of order, just a dilatory tactic, so I think that— McCAULEY: Okay, thank you. We'll go back to Mr. Scheer, please. SCHEER: Yeah, just to let the record show that the Liberal MPs are now calling the findings of the Auditor General "fiction", so, uh, that, uh, that's new to me, Mr. Chair! KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order! Point of order! SCHEER: But, uh, that's what I heard. KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order, Mr. Chair. McCAULEY: <shaking his head> Yup. KUSMIERCZYK: Point of order, Mr. Chair. McCAULEY: I've got you, Mr. Kusmierczyk. KUSMIERCZYK: I really don't appreciate—I don't appreciate my colleague ascribing to me statements that I do not hold, and uh, and I ask— SCHEER: You just said it! KUSMIERCZYK: —that he retracts—I ask that he—no no no, I said that YOU should stick to facts, not fiction. Not the Auditor General, whose recommendations absolutely— BARRETT: Point of order. KUSMIERCZYK: —I respect. McCAULEY: Okay. Mr. Barrett, and then hopefully we can get back to Mr. Scheer. BARRETT: Chair: wants and feelings. I'm just wondering if we can point to those in the standing orders— McCAULEY: Okay, that's not a point of order... <sighs and chuckles> BARRETT: —or if we're just gonna, or if these are indeed dilatory tactics, and Liberal members should, ah, should restrain themselves. McCAULEY: We will ask everyone to maintain some decorum. Mr. Scheer, we'll get back to you. SCHEER: Just for the record I was quoting the Auditor General from her appearance just this morning, but basically what we're dealing with is twenty million dollars' worth of contracts going through to GC Strategies. The Auditor General has told us, and told committees, [etc] A bunch of grandstanding jackasses on all sides. Our government at work.