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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Okay, but YOU are not voting, unless I somehow missed when you moved to the States, so it doesn't matter at all what YOU are looking for in an American president.
That's the thing about this thread that drives me insane. Canadians are constantly judging American candidates based on Canadian political values. Here's the thing, these guys represent what most Americans want, for better or worse. Whether that's a good thing is fine to debate, but to suggest that Americans aren't getting representatives for what they want is horse####.
The problem is that a lot of Americans seemingly want a lot of terrible things. Looking into why is probably a more important question to answer, rather than arguing that the whole system is corrupt and undemocratic. It's certainly not a perfect country or system by any stretch, but it's still a functioning democracy for now.
Here's the thing though...one current candidate would continue maintaining it as a democratic country, giving the hope for better outcomes in the future. The other would work to destroy democratic institution and elections, making it an autocracy, where he would be president for life. One is a feeble candidate who is past his best before date, and the other is an existential threat to the constitution of the country.
It's a pretty easy ####ing choice if you truly value democracy as much as you say you do.
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Aren't Trump, Clinton, and Biden the 3 least liked Presidential candidates in history (at least since polling began)? I don't think that suggests that the current candidates are a good representation of what Americans want. They're just who the two parties and their members have offered up.
There's that Norm Macdonald joke that basically went like: "Americans hated Hillary Clinton so much that they elected a guy they hated even more out of spite", and there's actually a lot of truth in that. When Democrats position themselves as the sort of sane, status quo option while simultaneously offering up candidates that basically no one likes, that leaves a lot of room for people to just say "to hell with it" and vote for the crazy guy who promises change.