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Originally Posted by bluejays
I very very largely agree to all. However where the ego angle comes from for me, is his need to get players at any cost when they were in the media or the circumstances he got them. Namely the players I previously named.
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Your point about pride, I see where you're coming from. I am not sure if pride is the best word. Some of the players that he went after were players that other teams were also pursuing. And of course like other GM's, he has specific players that he likes. That's why I attributed more to management style. Top down has to do with the direction of the flow of information. Delegating has to do with the direction of the flow of information. Not using other people's experiences or insights would restrict the flow of information that person has based on their own experiences. That could be pride or could be his management style. Conroy talked about how Brian Burke used to use him and Pascal to go out and do things, but Treliving didn't use them the same way. That's not always a bad thing because it made Conroy more aware and more hungry to do things a little differently. He saw the deficiencies he saw how things unfolded. Empowerment has to do with the flow of information when given to a team and the have the power to use it and to share it. Because some people have more skills more ideas and more tools, by allowing everybody to share as a team makes the decisions made a lot stronger. Treliving was bound to his own experiences he liked Bill Peters because he talked to Bill Peters. He even said that himself, but it would be better if you could listen to what everybody says about Bill Peters or any other coach for that matter, and weigh that against your final decision. I don't disagree with you about pride, but I think it's too specific, I think the management styles attributed to some of the shortfalls. For example Burke may seem like a guy with a lot of pride but from what Conroy said, he seems like an empowering person.
So if you want to agree to disagree we can, just don't know if pride is the right word but I think I know what you're trying to say.
Let's just say that Treliving likes to drive fancy cars but Conroy knows what makes them run.
To be fair we don't really know the extent that Brad Treliving worked with others, we just go mostly by what we hear.
Brad did a lot of good things but good or bad, Conroy got a front row seat.