[Wormius]

Originally Posted by curves2000

We may be splitting hairs here but I don't believe this is or will be a government bill, so to speak. Some policy changes may be directives from the government and some aspects may be enshrined in law as a government bill. There are a few moving parts to this through education ministry, health, social services and more.

Am I in favor of this from Smith? As a non parent, parental rights seem logical and pragmatic to me. Some of the other stuff? Not really. Is some of this political? Absolutely but it's also political on the opposite side which is where I think some of the pushback may be coming on the right. Naturally when adults in the room can't agree, it's children that pay the price. It's sad but it's what happens in real life.

I think there is a LOT to learn from everybody on this across the board. I am the first to admit, I don't have answers, but neither do some other people. A lot of this explosion in people identifying as trans/ wanting gender reassignment surgery treatment etc is a fairly new situation for a lot of people. People in government, parents, students, medical professionals, historians are all trying to understand certain things.

You hear situations like in Sweden, a country that first allowed gender reassignment surgery in recent times, putting the brakes on certain aspects of their policy. A 1500% growth rate from 2008-2018 had people wondering what may be happening.

In the French material I referenced, they discuss an " epidemic-like phenomenon" This growth rate is something perplexing to a lot medical professionals. When a G7 medical organization writes something like that, it's an eye opener in some ways for me at least.

In the UK, the national health system was tasked with a study. 10 years ago approx 250 people were referred to the Gender Identity Services department. In 2022 that was 5000, a doubling from 2021.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ender-identity

I am sure with the help of of the NDP, some medical professionals and other experts, some aspect of this may be watered down or changed due reflect a better understanding.

Curves, did you read the Guardian article or any of the others, or just the headlines? They make a very reasonable of why this is becoming more widely observed. If you want the simplified analogy from the Guardian article about the situation in the UK:

”Left-handedness increased over time after we stopped punishing left-handed children in schools, because some children are naturally left-handed and were now able to express it,” said Cleo Madeleine, a spokesperson for the trans support group Gendered Intelligence.

“In the same way, increased visibility and acceptance of trans people has led to a gradual increase in young people who feel comfortable expressing their trans identity. The most important thing is to recognise that this is not a problem to be solved or a bad outcome to be avoided.”