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Old 02-02-2024, 02:44 AM   #17620
curves2000
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime View Post
Curves, I think that one of the main problems of this bill is that they used the medical aspect of transition to make a loud noise to muffle out the more insidious aspects of what was passed.

I think that most people would agree that any medical intervention on kids should be handled gently and with trepidation.

Almost everything else in this bill damages the welfare of children in favor of a very religious core family outlook that has no place in government policy.

This is the same reason, on a parliamentary level, that Freeland's bill was forced to break up into smaller parts, federally by the speaker. It's an omnibus type bill that tries to sneak in legislation. It's politics, and it's gross.

Split up, the medical parts would still pass, and the rest would be chewed to shreds.


We may be splitting hairs here but I don't believe this is or will be a government bill, so to speak. Some policy changes may be directives from the government and some aspects may be enshrined in law as a government bill. There are a few moving parts to this through education ministry, health, social services and more.

Am I in favor of this from Smith? As a non parent, parental rights seem logical and pragmatic to me. Some of the other stuff? Not really. Is some of this political? Absolutely but it's also political on the opposite side which is where I think some of the pushback may be coming on the right. Naturally when adults in the room can't agree, it's children that pay the price. It's sad but it's what happens in real life.

I think there is a LOT to learn from everybody on this across the board. I am the first to admit, I don't have answers, but neither do some other people. A lot of this explosion in people identifying as trans/ wanting gender reassignment surgery treatment etc is a fairly new situation for a lot of people. People in government, parents, students, medical professionals, historians are all trying to understand certain things.

You hear situations like in Sweden, a country that first allowed gender reassignment surgery in recent times, putting the brakes on certain aspects of their policy. A 1500% growth rate from 2008-2018 had people wondering what may be happening.

In the French material I referenced, they discuss an " epidemic-like phenomenon" This growth rate is something perplexing to a lot medical professionals. When a G7 medical organization writes something like that, it's an eye opener in some ways for me at least.

In the UK, the national health system was tasked with a study. 10 years ago approx 250 people were referred to the Gender Identity Services department. In 2022 that was 5000, a doubling from 2021.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ender-identity

I am sure with the help of of the NDP, some medical professionals and other experts, some aspect of this may be watered down or changed due reflect a better understanding.
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