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Old 01-31-2024, 11:12 PM   #17538
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Originally Posted by curves2000 View Post
I don't have children so this policy doesn't really affect me personally but one thing I can't understand is why there is SUCH pushback from parental consent and notification in specific areas? The state doesn't own or control the children, it's the parents who are responsible to raise children.

I fully understand that parental consent and notification may result in outing trans kids, causing undue hardship and trouble for teens who may be gay and such. It's an awful situation that shouldn't happen but it's just a reality of the situation.

On the reverse, if I have a child who may better identify with a particular gender, want a specific pronoun, is considering gender changing surgery, is trouble coping with being gay etc and the province does not inform the parents, is that right? Do we really want the government to make decisions on what's in the best interest of the child? Would the government take responsibility if my child committed suicide and I wasn't notified, thus not allowing me the opportunity to spare no expense, time and trouble to ensure that MY CHILD get's the best care available. Parents will go to extreme lengths to assist and help their child, leaving no stone unturned. Does the government?

I get that we live in different times than before but do we sometimes forget what happens when we give the government control over certain things, like parental control.

The same governments that allowed the absolute horrible scenarios that happened with residential schools are suppose to be looking after the best interest of the child? Was the state not looking after the best interest of the child then, as recently as the late 90's?

Do we not have an insane amount of issues with children services for abusers, sexual assault convicts, lawful and unlawful hospital apprehensions within specific communities. We have a bail and prison system that allows the sickest of individuals to be let out to commit the same offenses over and over again to children and we wonder why it happens? We have foster home and care issues where children are treated like flat out garbage and only kept around long enough for the money train to run out of fuel, then tossed onto the street at 18.

The same government's are then suppose to fully be looking after the child's best interest by NOT informing me if my child may or may not be having serious issues at school which COULD put them in a position to harm themselves?

It seems like with this issue some people have WAY TOO MUCH faith, hope and confidence in random government administration instead of their own parental and gut instincts. The vast majority of parents would be able to handle the described issues at school much better than the government would in my personal opinion.
So you are approaching it from the mindset of a loving parent who will support their child and get them the best medical and psychological treatment they need. Those kids and parents are not affected by this law.

Now this law probably does have to balance self harm that isn’t prevented from a parent not being told versus self harm from kids not telling anyone or abuse from parents from disclosure. I’d suggest that suppressing people from knowing and informing parents who will abuse their children of a result of this information likely causes more harm then the edge case where a kid isn’t telling their parents but would tell a teacher who will tell their parents.

Do you believe there is a child who under this new law is more likely to get the help they need than under the previous law? If a child won’t tell their parents why would they tell a teacher who will tell their parents. At least under current legislation they have told someone.

A lot of populist legislation makes sense in the common cases that don’t need to be dealt with. Loving parents who care and support their children will be able to help their child. Why would anyone be against parents helping their child. The logic ignores the edge case where the parents are abusive.
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