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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Canucks were last in goals against last season.  |
Correct, old whale team bad. Not sure the relevance there, but okay.
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Seems like Canucks fans don't know anything about defensive play, and continue to fall for shooting percentage anomalies.
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Uhhh... yeah, sure okay?
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Hoglander is so amazing he spent most of last season in the AHL. No one could recognize his amazing D play last year I guess.  |
Two things. He was in the AHL last year as a specific choice by the organization. They realized he had been rushed into the NHL by the previous regime and would benefit from time playing at a level where he could see bigger minutes and work on the offensive skills he had as opposed to being forced into a grinding NHL role with inconsistent playing time. This is the same thing they have opted to do with Podkolzin this year. It is referred to as "development" in some circles. But also, I never said he was an amazing defensive forward?
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Want to have a bet on Canucks fans opinions of Hoglander next season?
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Sure.
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Assuming the Canucks still have a team after the fans burn the city to the ground following their playoff exit....
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Why would the Canucks lose their team if the city burnt down? Just move them to the LEC while we rebuild. Definitely have a contingency plan.
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Has nothing to do with that.
He doesn't want to see the Canucks overpay (package in OP) so he's arguing no one will overpay because it suits his preferred outcome as a Canuck fans so he's playing the angle that fans here would be dumb to believe or attach any hope to the listed trades.
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That's not what I argued at all? I am beginning to think that I had a misunderstanding about what you meant though. I've said every post in the title is something that is a fair deal. I thought you were saying that Flames fans should expect more. But I assume I've missed something in the other trade thread where people are now expecting less than a 1st, prospect and a player. Now that said, you are just straight lying to say I've been arguing that the Canucks would and should pay less than the above deals. I've said since I brought up the Canucks taking a long hard look at Lindholm a week or two ago that the deal would be a 1st, Podkolzin, Kuzmenko. I don't see it being Hoglander. Hell, I've said in this thread as much. I think you've been called out for being a dweeb and are trying to do some revisionist history off a misunderstanding to make it seem a lot worse than it is.
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Rather than blindly playing white knight for your buddy maybe look deeper because you're clearly not getting it. Yes, we know what Blaster is and how he normally is which is a fine member here, but in this case he has vested interest and it's obvious. But it's detracting rather than adding to the discussion because he wont entertain a thread about a very positive outcome for the flames and that's what's being discussed.
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The irony of this considering my only permanent infractions for purpose of a perman-ban are from Jiri is quite funny to me. But ofcourse that's not something you would know about since it all happened 13 years ago, which is why he's saying what he is saying. It's not that we're 'buddies' it's that he knows I'm not being contrarian to be a ####. I'm making fun of you to be a #### and ten years ago he would have already told me to knock it off.