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Old 01-11-2005, 07:05 AM   #52
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Yes they can, and no its not. Just because a good institution has been hijacked by selfish forces is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water. I'd suggest that the government is supposed to shield us from these insidious corporate forces, not act as their tool. I'd prefer complete governmental and corporate reform, redefining their places appropriately, to abolishing central organization as we know it.
This is where we differ. I certainly do not think that the governement was established with the purpose of protecting people. To put it in a sarcastic way, that was just a cover.

Again, the important point here is to understand "corporate power" and markets. On a free market, there is no other way to make money than to satisfy a need of someone else. People and companies who satisfy needs of other people grow bigger and bigger. In other words, you want the government to shield us from companies that serve us the best.


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Exactly, identify the 'rich' as the problem, and deal with them. Tossing the government away will just force them to find another avenue to use their resources to control and manipulate the 'poor' to generate more resources for themselves.
See, again. You define the rich as the problem. I define them (on a free market of course) as those who proved to be the best at satisfying needs and anticipating future preferences.

How can you manipulate the poor to generate more resources for yourself, if you do not have governmental backing? If the poor dont buy your products you are broke. But if you do have governmental backing, they can protect you with direct subsidies, import quotas and tariffs etc, all in the name of "protecting strategic industry/company" or "protecting employment." In other words, you are protected by the government eventhough consumers do not want you on the market because you do not satisfy their needs properly. Yet they are forced to keep you there. So how are the poor protected by the governments? They are not.
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